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Anyone Promoting Regime Change In Iran Is An Evil Piece Of Shit

I have been saying all year that the 8chan phenomenon known as “QAnon” is bogus, and as time has gone on the evidence has become overwhelming that it is an establishment psyop designed to herd the populist right into accepting the narratives and agendas of the establishment orthodoxy. Whether they’re claiming that every capitulation the Trump administration makes to longstanding neoconservative agendas is actually brilliant 4-D chess strategy, or saying that Julian Assange isn’t really trapped in the Ecuadorian embassy, QAnon enthusiasts are constantly regurgitating talking points which just so happen to fit in very conveniently with the interests of America’s defense and intelligence agencies.

A recent “Q drop” (a fancy name for an anonymous user posting text onto a popular internet troll message board with zero accountability) makes this more abundantly clear than ever, with text reading as follows:

Free Iran!!!
Fight
Fight
Fight
Regime change.
People have the power.
We stand with you.
Q

Once you’re cheering for a longtime neoconservative agenda to be accomplished in one of George W Bush’s “Axis of Evil” countries, you are cheering for the establishment. Or, to put it more clearly to Q followers, you are cheering for the deep state.

So now you have conspiracy-minded populist right wingers being manipulated into supporting the same standard Bush administration globalist agendas that Alex Jones built his career on attacking. The support for regime change interventionism in Iran isn’t limited to the QAnon crowd, having now gone fully mainstream throughout Trump’s base, and I’d like to address a few of the arguments here that they have been bringing to me:

“Iran is nowhere near the same thing as Iraq, Libya or Syria!”

Please go look at a globe and think a little harder about your position here. Iran is a target for regime change for the exact same reasons its neighbors Iraq and Syria have been; it occupies and extremely strategically significant location in an oil-rich region that the US-centralized empire wants full control of. Thinking this one is different because its government isn’t secular is the product of many years of Islamophobic propaganda; the plutocrats and their allied intelligence and defense agencies don’t care what religion sits on top of their oil, and Saudi Arabia proves it. Any argument made against Iranian theocracy could be made even more strongly against KSA theocracy, but you don’t see Sean Hannity advocating the overthrow of the Saudi royals, do you?

“But this regime change intervention would be completely different!”

No it wouldn’t. There has never been a US-led regime change intervention in the Middle East that wasn’t disastrous. Cheering for regime change interventionism in Iran is cheering for all the destabilization, chaos, terror, death, rape and slavery that always necessarily comes with such interventions. Wanting to inflict that upon the world is monstrous.

“This is different, though! This one is led by Trump! Look at all that he’s accomplished in North Korea!”

Okay, three things:

1. All that Trump has done with North Korea is take the very first step in the most rudimentary beginnings of peace talks. I fully support him in taking that step, but you can’t legitimately treat it as an “accomplishment” which proves that he is a strategic genius capable of facilitating the impossible task of non-disastrous regime change in Iran.

2. Even if Trump does help bring abiding peace to the Korean Peninsula, it won’t legitimize regime change interventionism in Iran. Hell, even if Trump gets North Korea to denuclearize (and he won’t), it still wouldn’t legitimize regime change interventionism in Iran. US-led regime change interventionism is always disastrous, especially in the easily destabilized geopolitical region of the Middle East.

3. Neocons are always wrong about foreign policy. Always. There’s no reason to believe Trump spearheading a longstanding neocon agenda would work out any better than Bush or any other neocon.

“Well what about the Iranians in Iran who want regime change?”

What about them? The fact that some Iranians want their government changed has nothing to do with you or your government. The Fox News and Washington Post pundits who keep pointing out the fact that Iran, like America, contains people who are unhappy with its current system of government are only ever trying to galvanize the west against Tehran. There’s no good reason for you to be acting as a pro bono CIA propagandist running around telling westerners how great it would be if the Mullahs were gone.

“Well I don’t want the US to intervene, I just want the Iranians to free themselves!”

Two things:

1. This administration is already currently engaged in regime change interventionism in Iran in the form of escalated CIA covert operations and harsh economic sanctions, and its involvement with Iranian terror cult MEK suggests it may run far deeper than that in a similar way to US involvement with extremist groups in Syria, Libya and Ukraine.

2. Why say anything, then? Ever stop to ask yourself why you’re always cheering for Iranians to overthrow their government? Why constantly cheerlead for something which requires zero western involvement? Whom does that help? Do you think Iranians don’t already know that America hates their government?

All you’re doing is helping to signal boost the pro-regime change propaganda that US defense and intelligence agencies have been seeding into American public consciousness for many years. Your “Yay, free Iran!” sentiments aren’t helping Iranians, they’re helping the western propagandists target western audiences. You’re just helping the public get more okay with any actions taken against the Iranian government, in exactly the same way Russiagaters help manufacture support for escalations against Russia.

Come on, people. Think harder. This one isn’t difficult. It’s not a random coincidence that you’re all being paced into supporting regime change in the final target named seventeen years ago in General Wesley Clark’s famous “seven countries in five years” list of neocon regime change agendas. The only thing that has changed is the face on the agenda.

Iran is not different from the other regime change targets of Iraq, Libya or Syria. Barack Obama served George W Bush’s third and fourth terms, and Donald Trump is serving his fifth. They were strong-armed in different ways by America’s unelected power establishment into advancing different regime change agendas depending on where their political support came from and public sentiment at the time, but it’s all been pointed at the exact same region for the exact same reasons.

Leave Iran alone. Leave the Iranian people alone. There is no legitimate reason for you to be cheering for regime change in Iran, and anyone who tells you otherwise is an evil piece of shit. Reject them.

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  • Amen. Has the US actually ever caused a successful regime change (with consequent “nation-building”) since WW2 (when the narrative of the cold war and the “let’s attack the godless communists before they get stronger than us” agenda were the first platform for the neo-cons)?

    I am starting to get the same feeling that I remember having in September 2002, when W and his gang started to agitate for invading Iraq. It was an increasingly sinking feeling of “Oh, no! They cannot possibly be that stupid,” followed the next week by “Oh, no! They can be that stupid!” and so on, till March 2003.

    But maybe the American voters will throw out Trump in 2020, before he has decided whether to attack Iran, North Korea, Ukraine or Yemen (this last one being the least foolish of the alternatives).

  • I sincerely hope that as many pro-Iran war advocates as possible enlist and get killed slowly and painfully.

  • It’s just insane how peeps still beleive this madness has something to do with “”evil dictators”. Even my goldfish has seen through that bs. Thanks for what you’re doing!

  • Dear Caitlin,
    I supported Bernie and Jill stein. I think you have taken this one Q post out of context. If you had been following the 8chan board since October as I have then you would know that Q uses the word “freed” to mean free from CIA control. as in North Korea was just freed, bad actors were removed and now NK can pursue peace without fear of false flags and retaliations. Q says Iran is next. Iran has been used by our CIA to circumvent the Iran deal and have iranian nuke developement sites in Syria. McCain and Isis and weapons deals in Syria ( which we know is CIA) is also tied up with the Iran Nuke deal.. so by saying Iran Freed Q is saying that the bad actors are being removed from power there.. so that there wont be any more fake gas attacks blamed on assad.. fight fight fight is not a reference to war. it was a message to anons to stay vigilent.. trumps parade in november is to celebrate bringing all the troops home from all the dumb wars. I dont believe there is any plan to go to war with Iran. theres no need. Dismantling the corrupt corporate cronyism Nuke deal has accomplished much on its own.
    Whether Q is a larp or not is not the point. People who supported Bernie saw the exact same media manipulate the truth during the campaign as are manipulating the truth against Trump now. Q’s board is open sharing of information. Digging to find truth. Free Speech. Community. and most of all proof that we are not alone. Thousands of people visit the research boards. They are not all right wingers. They are not all nationalists. Mostly, they are smart people who are sock of the establishment lying. Sick of the manipulations and proxy wars and corruption. People much like yourself. You have entirely missed the point if yiu think jts a psyop to manufacture consent for war against Iran.. nor do we think Trump is the saviour. but information IS. Free un-censored speech is. As anons would say “lurk moar”. You clearly have no clue what you are writing about.

    • “….trumps parade in november is to celebrate bringing all the troops home from all the dumb wars. ”
      .
      Your brain must be literally suspended in a pool of Qool-Aid. Re-visit this statement after the parade in November and maybe then you’ll want to re-evaluate your belief systems.
      .
      Under Trump, U.S. Troops In War Zones Are On The Rise https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/12/01/566798632/under-trump-u-s-troops-in-war-zones-are-on-the-rise

    • You haven’t been paying attention if you think that Trump isn’t pushing for war with Iran. He hired John Bolton. Enough said.

  • I find it ironic in the extreme those who push to clean up someone else’s backyard while their own is strewn with litter. Those in the West (or anywhere else for that matter) that insist some other sovereign nation requires intervention (be it military, political, economic, etc.) need to take a good hard look in the mirror. Our own countries are collapsing/declining before our very eyes and we are gaslighted to support further chaos and destruction all in the name of ‘freeing’ others (while our own ‘leaders’ tighten their own totalitarian grip on us).
    Keep up the great work, Caitlin, and keep exposing the hypocrisy and nefarious behaviour of our feckless ‘leadership’. As you continually argue, this is about power. Power over people and over resources, especially oil and gas. Infinite growth on a finite planet, what could possibly go wrong?

  • Caitlin as usual driving a bulldozer through the warmongers lying narratives.

    The US is a weird supremacist nation that does the bidding of the UK, Israel, and Saudi Arabia.
    The US is the fascist rogue state of the 21st century.
    That is why it is targeting Iran.

    • The US is a decaying system. This how empires often fall.

  • You are right as always! This needs to get to the likes of Lionel Nation and his followers. He can be smart and amusing but is so wrong on the Q thing.

    • Don’t hold your breath. Israel wants Iran taken down. Therefore , Lionel , H.A.Goodman , George Webb , Jason Goodman , Larry Klayman , Charles Ortel , etc. , etc. , want Iran taken down.
      The psyop of which Caitlin speaks extends well beyond Qanon.

  • Interesting that Iran oil could be part of the “deal” with North Korea. And maybe India, a nation in very deep trouble with severely depleting water supplies, will be on the agenda soon (at least in public rather than just in private neo-con board rooms) as Iranian oil is becoming more of an item of trade for India. As Art Berman says, “Energy is the economy!” I try to watch who is getting oil from whom.

  • Iran is an enemy of Israel. That is almost the beginning, middle, and end of the story.

    • IRAN is in the way of NWO and Israel is the king pin of NWO

  • Why do any Americans support regime change anywhere (i.e., illegal, covert, internal activities against another country’s government, followed by invasion, bombing and destruction of said country)?

    Would we [meaning US’ians] support another country invading the US to get rid of our government and installing a new one that they chose for us? Seriously, I have hated most of our presidents for the last couple of decades – and don’t get me started on the shits in Congress – and Trump is particularly appalling, along with his ass-kissers in Congress who are going full bore on destroying our social safety nets and environment. Still, I wouldn’t want some foreign country deciding they needed to bomb the fuck out of us to “help” us “change” our “regime”. Our regime needs some changing for sure, but no-one in his right mind would desire a foreign power imposing the change upon us and installing their vision of what the US should be through the use of brute force.

    Besides, this sort of thing always backfires. Nothing makes a society more internally cohesive, nationalistic, and self-protective than a foreign power attacking it.

    • Well said Teri !! What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

      Regarding this statement you made: “Nothing makes a society more internally cohesive, nationalistic, and self-protective than a foreign power attacking it.” As you probably know, that was the point of the 911 false flag

    • Excellent, Teri!

  • The Neocons always lose because their aim is not to win a war; their plan, especially brought to us by 9/11, is for perpetual war. That’s how they make perpetual money. Just like the Pentagon Papers revealed that the Vietnam War was unwinnable; didn’t matter because they just want to provide for the war profiteers.

  • “Trust The Plan” means “Trust Trump’s Plan. Qanon is little more than a novelty extension of Trump’s PR/campaign apparatus. If you need evidence , watch this analysis of recent Q tweets by a leading Q guru , “Praying Medic” :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gi978YaRUo

    ( BTW , for only $39.00 – free p&h ! – Praying Medic will send you an audio-visual training course that will show you how to cure 80% of all medical conditions using just the power of your dreams. If your condition is in the other 20% , well , you’re out of luck , you may as well go back to dreaming about sex with your neighbor’s spouse. However , he’s working on the other 20% , so stand by for Part II of the course. And Part III , and so on , I’d assume. “Preying Medic” seems a more appropriate handle , somehow. )

  • Great essay Caitlin. I’d give you a strong B+. Why not an A+? Because you have yet to study or include in your analysis the thrust of the Oded Yinon plan which is a big missing piece to your Deep State analysis. Check out the Saker, interviewed frequently on Bonnie Faulkner’s Guns & Butter, or read his analysis in this article which behooves you to grok to broaden your depth.
    https://thesaker.is/why-i-use-the-term-anglozionist-and-why-its-important/

  • As always, Caitlin, your perceptions are remarkably sensible. Lucky for everyone the Neocons always lose but they create an enormous amount of destruction, which I suppose is not a loss for them. Trump is right to demonise fake news, except he doesn’t know the half of it. Iran has been a subject of regime change for nearly 70 years. It doesn’t look like that will change any time soon.

    The real change will come with the next GFC-[GFC2]. That infection is already working its way into the World economies. The US, being monetary sovereign, can never be made bankrupt as it can always pay its costs in its own currency. But it uses its dollar to bankrupt other countries very successfully [debt dependency].

    It already distorts its own so called budget with under the counter expenses, such as its black ops and that will continue. All the political arguments about unsustainable debt are window dressing to cover for the agenda.

    The neo cons always have a bottomless pit of money to spend. However it will cease when the real resources become scarce and expensive, such as oil supplies, which is one reason the oil supply nations figure so prominently in Neo con sights. It’s not going to fall over immediately but it will. Our world is finite, and growth does not compute beyond a certain point.

    It doesn’t mean Iran will escape but it does mean the whole shebang will end one day. The sooner the better of course.

  • About time “Regime Change” was initiated far to the West of the half-destroyed Middle East

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