The Kafkaesque extradition trial of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange continues, with each frustrating day making it clearer than the day before that what we are watching is nothing other than a staged performance by the US and UK governments to explain why it’s okay for powerful governments to jail journalists who expose inconvenient truths about them.
The Assange defense team is performing admirably, making the arguments they need to make to try and prevent an extradition that will set a precedent which will imperil press freedoms and creating a chilling effect on all adversarial national security investigative journalism around the world. These arguments appear to fall on deaf ears before Judge Vanessa Baraitser, who has from the beginning been acting like someone who has already made up her mind and who has been reading from pre-written judgements at the trial regardless of the points presented to her (an unusual behavior made all the more suspicious by her supervision under Chief Magistrate Emma Arbuthnot, who has a massive conflict of interest in this case).
And while it is essential to fight this fight with every intention of winning, I’d also like to issue a friendly reminder that this entire trial is illegitimate at its very foundation.
Amid all the pedantic squabbling over when it is and is not legal under US law for a journalist to expose evidence of US war crimes, we must never lose sight of the fact that (A) it should always be legal to expose war crimes, (B) it should always be illegal for governments to hide evidence of their war crimes, (C) war crimes should always be punished, (D) people who start criminal wars should always be punished, (E) governments should not be permitted to have a level of secrecy that allows them to start criminal wars, and (F) power and secrecy should always have an inverse relationship to one another.
The Assange case needs to be fought tooth and claw, but we must keep in mind that it is so very, very many clicks back from where we need to be as a civilization. In an ideal situation the public should have governments too afraid of them to keep secrets from them; instead here we are begging the most powerful government in the world to please not imprison a journalist because he arguably did not break the rules that that government made for itself.
Do you see how far that point is from where we need to be?
It’s important to remember this. It’s important to remember that the amount of evil deeds power structures will commit is directly proportional to the amount of information they are permitted to hide from the public. We will not have a healthy world until power and secrecy have an inverse relationship to each other: privacy for rank-and-file individuals and transparency for governments and their officials.
“But what about military secrets?” one might object. Yes, what about military secrets? What about the fact that virtually all military violence perpetrated by the world’s largest power structures is initiated based on lies? What about the utterly indisputable fact that the more secrecy we allow the war machine the more wars it deceives the public into allowing it to initiate?
https://twitter.com/candle_finder/status/1305514827960463360?s=20
In a healthy world, the most powerful government on earth wouldn’t be trying to squint at its own laws in such a way that permits a prosecution of a journalist for telling the truth.
In a healthy world, the most powerful government on earth wouldn’t prosecute anyone for telling the truth at all.
In a healthy world, governments would prosecute their own war crimes instead of those who expose them.
In a healthy world, governments wouldn’t commit war crimes at all.
In a healthy world, governments wouldn’t start wars at all.
In a healthy world, governments would see truth as something to be desired and actively sought, not something to be repressed and punished.
In a healthy world, governments wouldn’t keep secrets from the public, and wouldn’t have any cause to want to.
In a healthy world, if governments existed at all, they would exist solely as tools for the people to serve themselves, with full transparency and accountability to the people.
We are obviously a very, very far cry from the kind of healthy world we would all like to one day find ourselves in. But we should always keep in mind what a healthy world will look like, and hold it as our true north for the direction that we are pushing in.
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47 responses to “Exposing War Crimes Should Always Be Legal. Committing And Hiding Them Should Not.”
It is at times like this, when an article is so spot on, that comment is unnecessary. I only speak when there is something to add that I perceive to be valuable, never just to hear myself speak.
Nice irony you Harry NY Dick. Comments always make an article better in my humble opinion even if the comments seem stupid and/or meaningless to some. Unless of course, you just want somebody to tell you how to think you Harry NY Dick.
Are you a puppet?
It is at times like this, when an article is so spot on, that comment is unnecessary. I only speak when there is something to ad that I perceive to be valuable, never just to hear myself speak.
Oh…ha, ha.
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I already know the answer to my question above posted on 92120.
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you are a harry ny dick…..and even worse
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you are a puppet.
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I’m so sick of fucking puppets.
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They have no blood flow.
Yes, this is a very sick world, and the injustice committed daily against Julian Assange is indicative of governments run by sociopaths. This same kind of outrageous injustice has been standard fare for historical revisionists who dared to question the tightly controlled narrative of WW2 history, but hardly anyone cared because most people believe that narrative. All of the historical revisionists were condemned. Now Assange is on trial for questioning the controlled narrative of U.S. government “security”, but this time there are more people who care because they do NOT believe that narrative. But will the “security-deniers” be able to save Assange? Sadly, given the pattern, I think not. The power of the controlled narrative to shape the public mind is truly awesome. The bulk of humanity, around 80% of the population, is wired to believe the controlled narrative delivered by the “trusted” authorities, who are essentially on the payroll of the ruling sociopaths. The small minority of security-deniers is easily drowned out by so many security-believers. And so, in this rigged game, there is no real justice in the justice system.
The Australian government is nothing but a dirty stinking criminal peace of dog-shit, that cares not one shit, about the Australian people! Sent them a message by NOT voting at the next election. ALL Australians should REFUSE to vote at the next election, sending the FUCK OFF message to these gutter rats and scum!
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/09/07/assange-extradition-hearing-free-press-trial/
On another note, Australians should tell Queen dirt bag of the Commonwealth to FUCK OFF! Another peace of dog shit! Barbados has the right idea!
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/09/16/634247/UK-Barbados-Queen-Head-Of-State-Republic-
Wait, there’s more! “Pre-Crime Law Would Give Australian Authorities Power To Arrest COVID ‘Conspiracy Theorists’
https://humansarefree.com/2020/09/pre-crime-law-australia-arrest-conspiracy-theorists.html
CORVID-19 IS A FRAUD!
https://humansarefree.com/2020/09/melinda-gates-warns-social-media-platforms-are-due-a-reckoning-for-not-censoring-enough.html
Yes, Well said Caitlin. Julian Assange should be held up as a hero for uncovering the truth about US war crimes…. All who shed light on War Crimes should be embraced not incased – they are true heroes not those behind desks committing crimes and using the secrecy act to cover their crime.
“We are obviously a very, very far cry from the kind of healthy world we would all like to one day find ourselves in. But we should always keep in mind what a healthy world will look like, and hold it as our true north for the direction that we are pushing in.”
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What is amazing is that despite all the attempts at totally polluting this World and everyone in it over the many generations of the Vicious Ongoing Reign of the Predator Class, that any people still exist on this good Earth who can still see truth and smell the awful stench of the rancid depravity that precious human souls have been exposed to for uncounted years. Despite all the attempts to stamp it out, Goodness does prevail in precious pockets here and there amidst the Dense Fog of Predator Depravity.
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We do not live in a healthy world. But They are trying to convince us that we do. If They get their way, and new generations get to believe Their Horrific Lie of Deception, then all will truly be lost. Not everywhere of course, because we are just one grain of cosmic sand in an endless sea of Universal Coastlines that never end. But the light of truth and the ability of humans to live as intended will have been snuffed out here. At that point, The Deception Disease will have fully taken over the body of the Earth and its inhabitants. And the Disease will become normalized as has been their goal for the ages.
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Those who love the truth and the magnificence of humanity without distortion? Give yourselves a great big hug. You deserve it. Your truly are the Salt of the Earth.
Beautiful.
My understanding of the world:
1) Return on capital\power is what motivates the world shapers
2) It’s all organized crime. Some of us work on the cleaner side of the house, but it’s all pretty much dirty now.
3) Global senior capital controls all sovereigns from the shadows
4) Global senior capital is old, old, old, money (royal and aristocratic families, their merchant bankers, The Vatican, etc). Bloodlines matter…a lot.
5) Organized crime includes a mixture of benevolent partnerships and required partnerships. Ultimate power and control is non-negotiable. There is no “free market may the best man win” ruleset. It’s ruthless. All wars are their wars not ours.
6) The China\Russia\Iran sabre rattling is about enforcing the terms of a “required” partnership. The terms are being worked out and will probably result in diabolical collateral damage for us all. Around 1000 bases in about 175 countries seems more like offense than defense to me.
7) There is no limit to their enforcement measures: assassination, atomic\chemical\biological\psychological weapons, etc.
8) They are master manipulators. They will use anything to trigger us to act on their behalf: patriotic and religious symbolism, false flag attacks they perpetrate, “we were attacked” accusations, communism\socialism\terrorism scare tactics, etc. They use it…because it works. When they say they made mistakes, they’re not apologizing for the actions, they’re apologizing for letting us find out.
9) Ideologies, politics, religion, etc are illusions to manipulate the masses. It’s a zero sum game to the real players.
10) Liberals and Conservatives are just good cop bad cop roles…they both answer to senior global capital
11) The illusions are wearing off, there are systemic cracks, and the rulers are battling for position. Who are the main rulers and their fronts (sovereign, political, corporate, etc))?
12) Militarily enforced world reserve currency (petro dollar) and world stores of trade surplus\value (US treasuries, stocks, etc) manipulations are adding to rising instability and loss of trust around the world. New store of value\trade settlement being worked out…gold\multinational\crypto? combination. Many have been killed for this supremacy and our comfy lifestyles are the by-product that soothes our guilt. Hopefully, our crime bosses reluctantly relinquish a little ground without too much more killing…it’s all about leverage.
13) UBI like stipends are coming to the unwashed…probably digital, but it’s not a precursor to a benevolent Star Trek like utopian future…it will be to try and keep the house of cards ponzi debt pyramid from collapsing. Authoritarian control will tighten.
Hey – do you all want to know how quick some change can happen.
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Let me tell you, a heart-beat won’t capture it.
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Please consider that a hopeful poem for the times.
Us peasants need all the hope we can get.
Please, let me send some hope your way.
Your Man in the Public Gallery: Assange Hearing Day 10
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/your-man-in-the-public-gallery-assange-hearing-day-10/
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The gloves were off on Tuesday as the US Government explicitly argued that all journalists are liable to prosecution under the Espionage Act (1917) for publishing classified information, citing the Rosen case. Counsel for the US government also argued that the famous Pentagon Papers supreme court judgement on the New York Times only referred to pre-publication injunction and specifically did not preclude prosecution under the Espionage Act. The US Government even surmised in court that such an Espionage Act prosecution of the New York Times may have been successful.
It is hard for me to convey to a British audience what an assault this represents by the Trump administration on Americans’ self-image of their own political culture. The First Amendment is celebrated across the political divide and the New York Times judgement is viewed as a pillar of freedom. So much so that Hollywood’s main superstars are still making blockbusters about it, in which the heroes are the journalists rather than the actual whistleblower, Dan Ellsberg (whom I am proud to know).
The US government is now saying, completely explicitly, in court, those reporters could and should have gone to jail and that is how we will act in future. The Washington Post, the New York Times, and all the “great liberal media” of the USA are not in court to hear it and do not report it, because of their active complicity in the “othering” of Julian Assange as something sub-human whose fate can be ignored. Are they really so stupid as not to understand that they are next?
Err, yes.
The prosecution’s line represented a radical departure from their earlier approach which was to claim that Julian Assange is not a journalist and to try and distinguish between his behaviour and that of newspapers.
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Unfortunately the Americans must br very happy at the current situation – they want him in jail and he is in jail. He has been incarcerated for so many years already so job done for now and perhaps in the future.
It s unbelievable that this ‘trial’ is happening in the UK but i have heard and read nothing in the UK about it for months. This is a very shameful period for British so called justice.
“But we should always keep in mind what a healthy world will look like, and hold it as our true north for the direction that we are pushing in.”
The devil truly is in the details. Just exactly WHAT will be the day to day details of the “healthy world” that will replace the unhealthy world that we presently live in?
It is becoming increasingly apparent to OTEC that what their herds “think” does not much matter. For example, the one and only thing that matters to OTEC is that the majority of voters entering the voting booth at election-time make marks or push buttons or pull levers next to R or D candidates for POTUS and congress. That is why OTEC spends billions on daily polls, ads, focus groups, etc. and publishes their results (true, fake, made up, etc.) in OTEC’s MSM. The members of the herd have to, by any means necessary, be made to “believe” that they must vote for an R or a D. And after these R and Ds are elected, regardless of what they promised during their campaigns, they will maintain the present arrangement exactly as it is ……………. and, in this case, Assange will live the rest of his life in a US prison.
IMO, there was a way that a mass of supporters could have assisted Assange’s safe escape from the Ecuadorian embassy. IMO, a similar thing could be done now. That’s the only way that Assange can be freed.
Kim dot com was a guest on a live broadcast by Consortium News last week. He said that the US has already accomplished its goal of silencing Assange through a “legal” preceeding that may end up taking many years. I think that he might be right, but I think that Agent Orange’s UK slaves will railroad him to the US in the next year or two, where the US’s injustice system will put him in prison forever.
If the US supreme court upholds a lower court finding that the US govt. can use the Espionage Act to imprison anyone revealing US classified material, IMO, from that moment on everything the US govt. or its military or its mercenaries does outside of public view will be classified.
Too true…though I have to tell you, Ms Johnstone, about the ‘free’ press in Canada; it was actually ‘news,’ people debated this, that we sold TANKS to Saudi Arabia that wouldn’t be used in Yemen. The government held that view despite the ‘free’ press publishing pictures of our TANKS being used in Yemen, though with the media having a debate, real, via series of articles, that we didn’t actually ‘give’ Saudi Arabia permission use the TANKS we sold them. Consequently, real, there being a debate in the papers and on the radio about whether or not we have the ‘right’ to tell Saudi Arabia what to do with our TANKS.
It is sort of embarrassing but, refreshing, the media has had to report on the UN’s recognition Canada has participated in WAR CRIMES because of its weapon sales, TANKS in Yemen and Syria, involvement in places it shouldn’t be….y’know, all round bad behaviour…
You think, maybe just not selling TANKS might be a good idea, but, apparently that cost jobs, affects politicians, just illustrates we are an all-round hypocritical nation.
Like the “governments” of all of the US’s vassal states, especially when it comes to foreign policy, the “Canadian” government is run by the US (Deep) State Department through its “consulates” (CIA stations) in Canada. For example, take a look at the one in Calgary:
https://ca.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/calgary/sections-offices/
Select the “Poltical and Economic Section” and you have a pretty good idea of how the US exerts its power over the Canadian people. Of course this is what is revealed in public. What happens in perfect secrecy would no doubt be of great interest to Canadians.
Thanks…totally off topic but I just wrote about nickel in Manitoba and its role in the manufacture of electric cars in another space, coincidentally neither mentioned in the ‘political and economic’ section. Going green could have serious ramifications for our independence, you think?
Yep.
It’s never been any different. From the time of Socrates in ancient Greece and Jesus of Nazareth in Jerusalem, in this world the best and brightest of us always have the same calling: speak truth to power and get ready to die…
Unfortunately, what is “legal” or is not is largely at the discretion of the very authority it is supposed to control. That is the fundamental lethal flaw in what otherwise could have been the most outstanding legal document in human history. The US Constitution does not provide for external enforcement, leaving the fox in charge of the hen house. Such is the issue in all legal frameworks. The law only works in one direction. From the state to the citizen. The only times it works in the other direction is by accident.
Society norms work the same way at the whim of the people. Look at society in America just 100 years ago. It has changed radically. We live by the whims of others.
“In a healthy world, if governments existed at all, they would exist solely as tools for the people to serve themselves, with full transparency and accountability to the people.” So said America’s founding document, believe it or not, in the elegant Preamble to its Declaration of Independence. Never has the concept of government been described in loftier terms…which were betrayed, of course, as the ink was drying on the signatures.
https://www.elcivics.com/us_declaration_preamble.html
Newton Finn wrote:
> “In a healthy world, if governments existed at all, they would exist solely as tools for the people to serve themselves, with full transparency and accountability to the people.” So said America’s founding document, believe it or not, in the elegant Preamble to its Declaration of Independence. Never has the concept of government been described in loftier terms…
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
— Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776
I love that good old 18th Century optimism. One might say a wack era, one in which the above could be written by a bunch of slave owners and genocidaires without turning a hair. But now we’re at the other end of the hall, and when we look through the door, it looks like there’s only a down staircase.
True observations, Anarcissie. It’s ironic to the max that perhaps the most succinct and sublime description of what democratic government should be was written by men who lived in the midst of slavery, some of which were slave owners themselves. Not even to mention the oppressively subordinate position of women in general. BUT, historical context must always be taken into consideration, as you do in assessing our current dystopian fixation. Some of the most sensitive and beautiful descriptions of nature, for example, are being written right now in the midst of a global social order hellbent on ecocide, being written by men and women who can’t help but participate (and thus be somewhat complicit) in the pathological sociopolitical context of their lives. We must learn to grasp and treasure the ideals expressed by both America’s founding fathers and our contemporary environmentalists, while also keeping in mind the contradiction and hypocrisy in their statements. Bottom line, we’re all human beings who exist at specific points and places in history, a history which in many ways has been and continues to be a horror story.
That’s awesome. LOL.
Mr. Newton – thank-you for this wisdom as well as your other comment about “Fordism” – I think that was you………very helpful to understand what preceded neo-liberalism.
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Hell, I’m all for keeping open all communication. I want to sit across the table. I’ve gone on record saying this for many years.
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I’m just not sure given how deep the depravity and decadence has gone and become that those few who have been accustomed to calling all the shots on a whim will be willing to give up without a bloody fight – I suspect they think they are immune and this is the hard lesson they will learn along with the rest of us. But take solace – they will suffer the most as a group and afterwards the rest of us can go on with our lives striving for peace and harmony.
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So, as we get further into true direct action response that makes a real difference, it could be that the time for chatting on the web is over. You know there will be some eyes that need to be poked out and some death and destruction all around. But eventually, my hope is that the retribution will get focused upon those responsible for long-term and large-scale suffering of innocence. I hope they get their due. Justice demands that – justice don’t play no games.
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That is what I think. What about you?
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if i should have said “Missus” Newton, then please take no offence and it is crazy I have to say this but these are the times we live in.
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what a mixed up crazy goofy disconnected and separated from the earth world we live in – thanks “capitalism” for accomplishing this.
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there must be something better
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Kropotkin knew his shit and he ain’t the only one
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I kind of like Schumacher as well and even though he was from the UK, I won’t hold that against him, but if that stupid kingdom ain’t broken up soon, then ain’t nothing gonna happen the way I’m dreaming…..oh well, most dreams don’t come true
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My Irish Blood is close to boiling.
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I’m done chatting.
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BK
Thanks for chatting, BK, and for the kind remarks. I, too, am a fan of E.F. Schumacher, not only for his famous “Small Is Beautiful” but also for his less well-known “Guide For the Perplexed” and “Good Work” (especially the former gem). I always post under my own name, which is Newton Finn, and I am of the male persuasion. Take care.
Newton Finn, from my perspective and I hope you agree, you and I are pushing in the same direction based on our understanding of the sad history of the last few generations – regardless of gender. I hope for nothing but the best for you and thanks for your response. I have a seriously bad attitude about some things and please don’t judge me for that. I believe in the spirit of humanity and I think you do as well. I pray for peace and I believe peace is easy. So much easier than what we have and it could be a piece of cake to make it happen and that is what I’m working on just now. Take care.
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Peace,
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The lame comments to Caitlin’s desperately important message scares the hell out of me. What are the odds for creating a healthy world out of a population hypnotized by consumerism, celebrity worship, and their own 15 minutes of fame ob social media? Ignorance is not bliss – it’s terrifying.
Its impossible. Like the Soviet Union and the Roman Empire it must simply collapse from within. America is at most a generation from collapse if that long.
NOT REALLY, AMERIKA is FALLING BECAUSE IT IS BEING PUSHED. It is over the cliff and in free fall. When it hits the BOTTOM………pobably SERIOUS SPLAT!
A serious SPLAT that will involve most of the world, since it is latched to the coat tails of America. The pitiful part being that after such a collapse, things do not typically get better. All the Psychopaths In Charge who were formerly held in check by the US Psychopaths In Charge then have an open playing field to take control of whatever scope of the world they can manage. We will likely discover that the US Psychopaths were not as evil as possible.
A healthy world? Just a dream some of us had.
Thank you Caitlin for covering this trial, and for your great clarity of thought. And thank you for the link to the daily maverick, which is new to me 🙂
Expect more of the same malignant opacity whilst we have representational ‘democracy’. Such a system is a joy and never ending delight for sociopaths & psychopaths who enjoy the thrill of climbing the greasy pole to attain as much power and control over us as is possible. The winners only become the pampered ventriloquist’s dummy after all since the [financial] swamp calls all the shots. A system using Full Participatory Democracy [Peoples’ Congresses & Peoples’ Banks everywhere] would ensure all the points listed below would become automatic:
“In a healthy world, the most powerful government on earth wouldn’t prosecute anyone for telling the truth at all.
In a healthy world, governments would prosecute their own war crimes instead of those who expose them.
In a healthy world, governments wouldn’t commit war crimes at all.
In a healthy world, governments wouldn’t start wars at all.
In a healthy world, governments would see truth as something to be desired and actively sought, not something to be repressed and punished.
In a healthy world, governments wouldn’t keep secrets from the public, and wouldn’t have any cause to want to.
In a healthy world, if governments existed at all, they would exist solely as tools for the people to serve themselves, with full transparency and accountability to the people.”
Ms Johnstone you are 1000 percent correct, as usual. Things should not be the way that they presently are.
Every American who cares about Julian should be thinking what action they are going to take if the extradition to Guantanamo is successful. Dispense with the consciousness of sheep. The farmer is not your friend.
That said, about todays article. TRANSPARENCY and holding it up as a pillar of prosperity and freedom is how exploitation would end. A few great men and women might rise to the occasion and kick rich exploitative ass out long enough for a humane system to be implemented but what then? After being conquered land must be administered. How to keep the turning of circles from completing a fourth turning into a new age of graft and collapse?
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TRANSPARENCY (and localization to the extent possible) is the answer. There is nothing government does that needs to be hidden. Not in a just world. Some people go to work and are watched all day long. Part of their job, it goes with their territory. Politicians should be in the class of workers who is watched. Like they were store clerks.
Julian is the ultimate enemy. Julian represents TRANSPARENCY and a better way.
Politicians should be in the class of workers who are watched. Like they were store clerks.
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Julian is the ultimate enemy of those who have things to hide. Julian represents TRANSPARENCY and a better way.
The people who started the Iraq war should do way more time than Assange.
They will…after trial in a higher court.
Mainstream has named the United States are democracy and freedom.
A truer name could be Banksters (from depression 1930s) and Wars .
Or the War Bankster’s states’ country.
Assange showed the truth and the banksters want him and others silenced.
99.9% of the time ‘war crimes’ is a tautology.
Isn’t it?
well done, Caitlin. In this chaotic world of piles of stress laid down upon gardens of anxiety in fields of slaughter and starvation and probably fake viruses, you manage to assemble time after time a set of orderly and logical reasons for correcting the mess.
even if the filthy rich did gain complete control of the planet, how would they ever be able to work together or with anyone of the hoi poloi? their outrageous behavior is so out of reasonable rational thought they would simply tear each other to pieces. i can see squabbles arising between Putin and Bolsonqaro and Li and Khomeini and Macron and Merkel and the US next prez between us and all of them as well as Cuba Venezuela , Rousseff and Lula and Kirchner and back again to Making Black Lives NOT matter and adding to that heinous pile of CIA crack babies running naked through the streets like messiahs of nature, then the american native peoples and All Mexicans not criollo, and whoever can wipe out the most Indonesians etc. etc., and
no god but the ownership Society because money will have lost its value under the floorboards over night as the rich only count Assets any more.
money is travesty. buying food is passe and owning it is, and will be, like gods on Earth.
Well said Caitlin – too few articulating the TRUTH !
Of course the perpetrators of these war crimes OWN the media !