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Biden: We’re Trying To Figure Out How Putin Can Exit This War

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The president of the United States made headlines the other day by just casually mentioning “Armageddon” as a possible outcome of the rapidly escalating war in Ukraine.

“We have not faced the prospect of Armageddon since Kennedy and the Cuban missile crisis,” President Biden said, adding the false claim that Vladimir Putin “talks about potential use of tactical nuclear weapons or biological or chemical weapons” in this conflict.

“First time since the Cuban missile crisis, we have the threat of a nuclear weapon if in fact things continue down the path they are going,” the president said in the same speech. “We are trying to figure out what is Putin’s off-ramp? Where does he find a way out? Where does he find himself where he does not only lose face but significant power?”

As though the US government itself has not played a major role in both provoking and sustaining this extremely dangerous conflict.

“These are questions that Biden should ask himself,” World Socialist Website’s David North writes of Biden’s musings. “Having instigated the US-NATO proxy war, provided Ukraine with unlimited weapons and money, pledged the reconquest of Crimea, and called for regime change in Russia, what is Biden’s ‘off ramp’? How can he deescalate ‘where he does not only lose face but significant power?'”

Indeed it is simply a well-documented fact that the US has been aggressively pushing toward this conflict since it backed a coup in Ukraine in 2014, and really since 2008 when NATO membership for Ukraine was placed on the table and continually promoted by the United States right up until shortly before Russia’s February invasion. Which is why all the way back in 2015 John Mearsheimer was explicitly warning that “the west is leading Ukraine down the primrose path, and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked.”

There’s also an abundance of evidence that the western empire actively sabotaged a peace deal between Moscow and Kyiv in the early days of the war, which would have given Putin precisely the “off-ramp” which Biden feigns concern about with Bambi-eyed innocence.

It’s also entirely self-evident that the only reason this war is even happening is because the US and its allies are pouring tens of billions of dollars worth of weaponry into this conflict which are being used by CIA-trained fighters who are aided by US intelligence and by an alarming number of US special operations and intelligence forces with boots on the ground in Ukraine.

So when Biden says “We are trying to figure out what is Putin’s off-ramp,” one is easily reminded of the “We’re all trying to find the guy who did this” hot dog car sketch from I Think You Should Leave.

Empire apologists always pretend this is just a war between Russia and Ukraine like there isn’t a gigantic globe-spanning third party who’s been actively stoking this conflict for many years and has moved mountains to keep this war going. We see it every day, like just recently when Finnish prime minister Sanna Marin was asked for ideas on how this war can end.

“The way out of the conflict is for Russia to leave Ukraine,” Marin said.

Actor Mark Ruffalo shared Marin’s comments on Twitter, saying “It’s so simple. Russia, leave Ukraine and it’s over. World peace. Ukraine can’t leave Ukraine. Russia can always go back to Russia.”

This is a constant throughout mainstream discourse about this war: this is solely a conflict between the righteous defender Ukraine and the evil invader Russia, and exactly zero other world powers at all. Russia is the sole aggressor involved in this war, so all Russia needs to do is stop aggressing and it will end. Pay no attention to the mountains of aggression the US and its client states have poured into sparking and sustaining this war. Pay no attention to that empire behind the curtain.

“So simple,” Ruffalo says.

If the political/media class always talks about a major world event without ever mentioning the empire-sized elephant in the room, there’s a good change we are being propagandized by that empire.

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  • Whoever still listens to Biden and Kamala and believes their utterances can’t be serious about issues. The current US regime, through the power of the corrupt MSM have misled many in the western world, much more the American people to believe that they are not the problem when they are. Biden and his cohorts lie with every breath they exhale and the world is in big trouble as a consequence.

  • Biden continued: “We are trying to figure out: What is Putin’s off ramp? Where does he find a way out? Where does he find himself where he does not only lose face but significant power?” (wsws.org-David North)

    We are trying to figure out: What is Putin’s off ramp? The US’ dictatorship rarely, if ever, includes the US’ public in good-faith decision making. And now (are you prepared for more subterfuge?), they openly discuss national security matters (as if they care what we think), with the world as their intended audience. It’s like talking in third person from an assumed position of elevation and superiority. Or wait…maybe this is a psychological ploy to overinflate Putin’s self-confidence (inducing a catastrophic strategic military blunder). Could they be rehearsing psyops in preparation for their next strategic move (maybe they’ll openly discuss that as well)? And what about the balance of quotes from Biden, above? Aren’t they US’ projection qualified? What will Vladimir Putin do next? Maybe he’ll create entertainment competition for AGT; you know, like Russia’s Got Talent? Putin could be the first contestant and perform the Prisiadka dance. What will Biden do next? Is it possible that the “Deep State” is reverting (well, they never left), to their “Weapons of Mass Distraction” options tool kit?

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    Just trying to see if this comment will be deleted like all the other ones

  • Like most statements from the Biden regime, you can just reverse the direction of the accusation, or replace the names.
    In this case, I’ll replace Putin’s name with Biden – and so it now reads “We’re Trying To Figure Out How Biden Can Exit This War”.
    Biden needs an off-ramp where he doesn’t lose (more) face, and (more) power. He’s going to lose both in the November mid-terms which may explain why he is saying this now. Either way he is in big trouble.

    • That’s right. Washington spends most of its time projecting. Whatever they allege, they are overwhelmingly guilty of themselves.

  • Biden & confreres do the projection thing so hard, it must be part of policy.

  • Biden is the scuzziest piece of shit ever to think that he runs the USA just because of all the graft and corruption the Deep State allows him and his family to dabble in.
    ~
    His comments about wanting Putin to find an offramp to this war are absolutely risible. If the lying sack of shit wanted this conflict to end he never would have bombed the Nordstream pipelines or the Kerch Strait Bridge. His words, like all the lies he spews, are simply meant as misdirection to fools, likely the American public, cuz Putin and his braintrust are not being taken in by it all. They well understand that Biden’s words are the prelude to the next escalation he has planned, very sadly after those always nefarious Russians again brushed aside his peace offerings. Lies are always a major part of Washington’s arsenal in any war that it starts.
    ~
    Does anyone really think that Lord Biden does NOT want to see the reported 40,000 new mercenaries that Ukraine has poised for invasion on the border near Kherson according to sources at RT? These murderous assholes are paid $3,000/day by Uncle Sam for their services. Biden wants his money’s worth. Moreover, his whole family is probably at risk for their massive lawbreaking for personal gain in Ukraine if that fascist abomination collapses like a house of cards. The readership over at RT are obviously hoping that Putin still has a Sunday punch to deliver to that horde from Mordor well before his 300,000 reservists are settled into their accommodations by December.
    ~
    The magic word seems to be “hyperbaric” as in the type of warhead delivered by missiles, hypersonic or not. These clever devices which engulf the entire atmosphere at ground zero in flames, depleting all the oxygen in the surrounding area and thus asphyxiating all aerobic life, including all the enemy, would be as efficient as tactical nukes in eliminating personnel. It could mean all 40,000 mercenary lives, nearly half a Nagasaki’s worth, erased in minutes. Would Lord Biden accept such an instant extirpation of 40,000 units of cannon fodder, probably including many Nato troops dolled up in Ukie livery, as well as many of his own special forces, instantly vaporised as HIS own convenient offramp? Knowing the asswipe, the answer is obviously “of course not!” It would be the cue to effect the next American escalation, which may well be the tactical battlefield nukes that Crazy Joe so rants about Russia planning to use. Nah, Joe and his schmoe’s have no intention of ceasing hostilities, not till merely the last Ukie, but till the last man on Earth.

    • Joe Biden is wondering if Vladimir Putin is ever going to find the off ramp to this war; and Vladimir Putin is probably wondering if Joe Biden is ever going to find the on ramp…period.
      Joe Biden: made in America

  • It’s all Open Secrets”: https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/open-secrets
    US/NATO special forces are in Ukraine and directing Ukrainian special force attacks. Ukrainian Special Forces blew up the bridge to Crimea with a truck bomb (Did the driver know?) US/NATO are investigating the Nordstream pipeline bombings they did and Russia can’t look. One of the pipelines seems unbreached (That can be “fixed”).
    COVID vaccines kill men 18-39 (Don’t you DARE Tweet that!). Twitter and PayPal have to back down from untenable censorship and robbery policies.
    Australia will give you a free gift-certificate for COVID-related funeral expenses, so get-the-jab! (Some restrictions may apply and your next-of-kin must redeem the coupon.)

    • Australia will give you a free gift-certificate for COVID-related funeral expenses, so get-the-jab! (Some restrictions may apply, and your next-of-kin must redeem the coupon.)
      Well, isn’t that magnanimous? For that generous offer, the Australian ruling class should receive something in return: Say…free transport (including an incredibly cheap Barramundi boxed lunch, with hot Fosters, Mate) to a lovely Billabong excursion, for a relaxing, extended midnight swim (under a full moon). I’m sure they deserve it.

      • Hopefully in a Billabong, chockablock full of maneating crocodiles.

        • Yes…a frenzied chockablock would be perfectly appropriate! After a successful outcome, and if I drank, I’d consume massive quantities of Carlton Draught, straight from the keg…
          This message approved by Crocodile Dundee!

  • Anyone who would swat a mosquito or a fly, is just as likely to murder a new born child. The best of America is on full display in the Whitehouse all.

    • That message definitely corresponds to the propaganda that spews from Whitehouse occupants.
      Here are some other messages from the Whitehouse:
      Ronald Regan on facts: “Facts are stupid things.”
      George Bush on learning: “Rarely is the question asked: is our children learning?”
      Barack Obama on visiting 57 states: “I’ve now been in 50…seven states? I think one left to go.”
      Bill Clinton on the meaning of ‘Is’: “It depends on what the meaning of the words ‘is’ is.”
      Joe Biden on Barack Obama: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
      Jimmy Carter on Lust: “I’ve looked on many women with lust. I’ve committed adultery in my heart many times. God knows I will do this and forgives me.”
      Richard Nixon on Being a Crook: “People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I’m not a crook. I’ve earned everything I’ve got.”
      George W. Bush on Harming America: “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
      Dick Cheney Reaching Across the Aisle: “Go f**k yourself.”
      Bill Clinton on Smoking Marijuana: “When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn’t like it. I didn’t inhale and never tried it again.”
      Bill Clinton on Monica Lewinsky: “I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I’m going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time, never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people.”
      —Bill Clinton, Jan. 26, 1998

      NOTE: Quotes from: (liveabout.com-5/24/19-Daniel Kurtzman)

  • The predatory capitalist economic structure is a huge conflict of interest. Until this sick system is supplanted, wars may never stop. Here is an excerpt that discusses this perverted organization: (Weapons Lobbying in the US is corruption by another name-trtworld.com-2/1/22-C.J. Werleman): When politicians profit from the sale of arms, then wars become sold to voters as new products. War is “conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many,” with only a very few making huge fortunes, wrote Smedley D Butler, a retired United States Marine Corps Major General, in his 1935 book War is a Racket. Last week, the US military-industrial-complex let slip just how vicious and opportunistic war profiteering has become in contemporary times. Greg Hayes, chairman and CEO of Raytheon Technologies, revealed to shareholders his company sees the recent Houthi rebel attacks against the United Arab Emirates, and counter strikes against Yemen by the Saudi-led coalition as “opportunities for international sales.”

  • So when the person in charge says the world is headed toward “Armageddon” how many heads in the room would explode if somebody asked him what he was doing to avoid it? There is in fact essentially no chance the Russians will initiate use of nuclear weapons but we’re being told to expect it by people for whom false flag attacks are routine. Do. The. Math. And so a quick and dirty 20kt goes off somewhere in Ukraine and then what? We can make a few assumptions: 1) Neocon schemes don’t work and this one won’t either, 2) most of the world will see it for the false flag it is, 3) sheeple bleating will go off scale, 4) every nuclear missile, bomber, and submarine crew in the world will go to maximum alert, 5) Putin will do a few shots of vodka, 6) Biden will double his meds, and 7) it gets fuzzy after that.

    • Also somehow a singing hotdog perfectly captures the essence of the US government. I don’t know how you do it.

  • “Having instigated the US-NATO proxy war, provided Ukraine with unlimited weapons and money, pledged the reconquest of Crimea, and called for regime change in Russia, what is Biden’s ‘off ramp’? How can he deescalate ‘where he does not only lose face but significant power?'”

    Joe Biddin is already disrespected and is impotent, so what’s the difference? Many of us realize the real motivations behind this conflict. And it is relatively simple. The deep state cabal globalists control Ukraine and use it for their dark operations. They lose Ukraine, they lose an important base. The United States is also a controlled deep state globalist cabal operation. Putin, while no angel, and Xi for that matter, in fact add probably about another 150 counties leaders to the list, be they good guys or not so good guys, are tired of the deep state globalist cabal having so much dark influence in their countries, stealing so much of their money and resources.

  • (When Did the Ukraine War Begin?–counterpunch.org-3/10/22-Roger Harris):
    Excerpt: Upsides of war for the US and the downsides for everyone else:
    War is a great diversion for Joe Biden, whose popularity has been slipping due to a lackluster domestic performance. The US empire has: further unifying NATO under US domination, reducing Russian economic competition in the European energy market, justifying increasing the US war budget, and facilitating sales of war material to NATO vassals.
    NATO has dumped over a trillion dollars in arms and facilities into the border countries next to Russia and continues to this day to pour lethal weapons into Ukraine. The leader of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi C14 recently bragged on YouTube (while other voices are censored): “We are being given so much weaponry not because as some say, ‘the west is helping us,’ not because it is best for us. But because we perform the tasks set by the west…because we have fun, we have fun killing.”

  • They are also amazed that Maduro hasn’t given up and begged for forgiveness yet. Apparently, they can’t wrap their heads around the fact that other people have ideas of their own.

  • The US fostered, sponsored, and participates in the Ukraine Proxy War. It is about competition. Here is an excerpt from an article by the Rand Corporation. US’ strategic initiatives are designed to overextend and unbalance Russia.

    (Overextending and Unbalancing Russia-rand.org-4/2022):
    The most-promising options to “extend Russia” are those that directly address its vulnerabilities, anxieties, and strengths, exploiting areas of weakness while undermining Russia’s current advantages. In that regard, Russia’s greatest vulnerability, in any competition with the United States, is its economy, which is comparatively small and highly dependent on energy exports. Russian leadership’s greatest anxiety stems from the stability and durability of the regime, and Russia’s greatest strengths are in the military and info-war realms. The table below draws from the earlier tables to identify the most-promising options.
    Most of the options discussed, including those listed here, are in some sense escalatory, and most would likely prompt some Russian counter escalation. Thus, besides the specific risks associated with each option, there is additional risk attached to a generally intensified competition with a nuclear-armed adversary to consider. This means that every option must be deliberately planned and carefully calibrated to achieve the desired effect. Finally, although Russia will bear the cost of this increased competition less easily than the United States will, both sides will have to divert national resources from other purposes. Extending Russia for its own sake is not a sufficient basis in most cases to consider the options discussed here. Rather, the options must be considered in the broader context of national policy based on defense, deterrence, and—where U.S. and Russian interests align—cooperation.
    NOTE: due to size, table excluded. However, “the most promising options” are listed below:
    Expand U.S. energy production, Impose deeper trade and financial sanction, Increase U.S. and allied naval force posture and presence, Reposture bombers, Invest more in autonomous or remotely piloted aircraft
    Invest more in long-range strike aircraft and missiles, Invest more in longer-range HARMs, Invest more in new electronic warfare technologies

  • It is just a distraction. Theatre to keep the plebs amused and entertained.

    The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

    In March I wrote that the war is existential, It is between Russia and the USA and only one can win. The other will be destroyed.
    The world will either be a place of sovereign nation states or a slave civilisation subservient to WEF – USA.
    Medvedev today stated that Russia will fight for the total economic and political destruction of the USA and will not stop until it is achieved.
    It is only just starting, the “Phony War” is over. Finally the Russians are taking the gloves off and have appointed a General who does not care about his image except that he wins.
    Personally, I hope that it happens in the next couple of years as I am too old to wait around for long.

  • It’s so simple. Ukraine, leave Donbas and it’s over. World peace. They don’t want you, and you don’t want them.

    • You and I and many others on this forum know it’s not that simple.
      The Ukrainian military now has a taste for totalitarianism – the higher echelons are experiencing control and power like never before.
      They will not give that up. Ukraine is now a military state with a figurehead president just like the US.
      Go back not so long ago when the news was all about Ukraine’s kleptocracy, its pornography and prostitution industry – the rampant Nazism displayed among its soccer fans.
      Zelensky was prominent in the ‘Panama Papers’ and Ukraine was the most corrupt place in Europe in which to do business.
      Australia’s ABC used to carry those reports and negative news about Ukraine – but have done a complete 180 degrees – at the behest of the US. There can be no doubt that truth in MSM reporting was a willing casualty in the west.
      Not so simple but I do agree with the premise.

      • “You and I and many others on this forum know it’s not that simple.” No, it is not that simple. It is a different context. This is about an altering world order (and Washington’s rules, based on Washington’s dictations), a declining US’ dollar (as world default currency), and a waning Petro-dollar. In the eyes of the ruling class/donor class/American oligarchs, this may be Custer’s last stand (at least for US’ projected hegemony). The sanctions only hastened the decline (along with decades of egregious, cruel abuses by the Military-Industrial-Complex, and other bad-faith actors). The US sabotaged itself, and its citizens.

  • I’m surprised Biden nurtures this kind of thoughts, which echo something just as condescendingly smug Macron said in the spring: “We don’t want to humiliate Putin”.

    Poor guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. He invaded on the spur of a moment and now it’s becoming clear that he can’t win. He’s losing five million men a day, has only got a rotten tomato and two dozen eggs left to go on fighting, hasn’t been able to do anything he said, like denazify Mariupol or guarantee the Donbass’ independence…

    You know what his problem is? He hasn’t got US advisers… Everyone knows they’re the best in the world! Look at the way they left Afghanistan! In perfect order! Only having thirteen men shot in the frantic crowd trying to access the airport and killing one of their Afghan aides and his seven children with a drone attack that, according to an investigation by the Pentagon, was carried out in perfect observance of the rules. So this guy’s death was just an accident and doesn’t diminish the merits of the brass in charge. That’s what Putin sorely misses! And so, he can be seen at night wandering along the Moskva with a bottle of vodka in his pocket, as reported by the source that informed the Steele dossier. A lost soul…

    Could get shot if he’s not careful. Or stabbed. Poisoned with novichok like Navalny…

    Well… that’s all for show on Biden’s part if you ask me because, as you pointed out the other day, Putin is auto destructive, like Angelina Jolie. The way he’ll exit this war is without anybody’s help in Washington. It’s by shooting himself in the foot. Don’t have to be a geopolitical expert to see that! Last week he blew up his own pipeline, yesterday he blew up his own bridge… What next?

    That’s clear enough, I think. He’s gathered his army in the Donbass to nuke it through a quadruple strike in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.

    That’s what he means by using tactical nuclear strikes in Ukraine. Well, he didn’t say that, but he thought it and Biden caught the buzz. Because while everybody thinks Biden is lost in dementia, he’s in fact listening to other leaders’ thoughts through an earpiece provided by the NSA. And that includes even leaders from other planets like former president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker.

    Once Putin has nuked his army, what will he do? Of course he’ll nuke the rest of Russia. He’s got 5,977 nuclear warheads, so he can nuke 5,975 towns and villages there plus two polar bears about to steal his lunch.

    And that’s it! Don’t worry, be happy. It pains me to see an old man like Biden trouble his last days with this kind of hurdle instead of concentrating on keeping the FBI’s hands off his son as they’re allegedly fixing to charge him with tax crimes and lying about his drug use when he bought a handgun in 2018…

    • @Pascal: “Because while everybody thinks Biden is lost in dementia, he’s in fact listening to other leaders’ thoughts through an earpiece provided by the NSA.” Is Joe Biden listening through an outdated earpiece?

      Biden seemed to be gesturing toward … improving the home lives of black children? With outdated audio equipment? He started off his answer by referencing the institutional segregation in this country, but then somehow ended up saying that social workers should be brought in to help parents “deal with how to raise their children.” That’s when he got into the idea that they should “play the radio, make sure the television — excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night. Make sure that kids hear words, a kid coming from a very poor school, or a very poor background, will hear four fewer words spoken by the time they get there.”
      NOTE: Excerpt from: (Joe Biden Sounded Like a Very Broken Record at the Debate-thecut.com-9/12/19-Bridget Read)

  • One thing I have seen consistently, US politicians will gamble the future of the country or the future of the world to get elected or re-elected. My best good-faith guess is the people handling Biden have what they think is credible evidence Putin will fail. Lets say it’s 89%. Really good odds, and probably better than Biden’s “Natural” odds against, say, I dunno, Madonna or The Rock. So, they figure if they bet heavy on that 89% and take credit for it, then it will make them look good and their people will get elected, maybe even get control of the Supreme court.
    ~
    But there’s also 11% chance we all die. That isn’t the kind of thing political strategists really seem to give half a fuck about. It’s not their job or something.
    ~
    Jonathan

    • I think Biden really expected to get a big bump in his poll numbers from his Ukraine speeches. He didn’t, he’s still underwater.

  • The war in Ukraine was fomented by the neo-cons in the Biden regime. 100%

    • You and you agreeing buddy are trolls dropping an anti-Biden meme. Anyone who reads Caitlin would agree this war is about empire and not one administration. If The Donald had won, it would be the same. If DeSantis or Mayor Pete win next time, it will be about empire. The GOP will give the 1% more tax cuts, the Dems will provide more talk about gender, but both will throw money at the military while providing zero benefit to the citizenry. At least Obama held back on weapons to Ukraine, Trump did not. The Ukraine war, barring nuclear exchange, is likely to outlast Biden’s ‘regime.’ Perhaps Trump will win again, then he can ask his big, beautiful generals to bring the troops home, no wait, there’s the CCP.

      • People like Biden and Zelensky are like mascots of sports teams. They are only there to entertain the spectators while the trainer and the team are discussing strategies.

  • So well said. Thanks

  • Having “benefited” us all, Biden himself declared he will run for re-election , like we need him! Like a dictator he pretends to oppose. WTF. Where and when does this end? Who the f*ck is writing his script, please stop now.

  • It isn’t Putin that needs to exit…it is the US.

    • Too late. Russia is getting the pieces in place for a counter offensive in January. The question is how much territory they will take. NATO will watch and scream but little else.

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