Well, like it or not the dust has barely settled from the November midterms and the 2020 presidential race is already underway. Campaigns are being launched, names are being floated, “Gosh look what an ordinary person I am!” videos are being live streamed from politicians’ kitchens, and we are already seeing many of the same toxic patterns from 2016 resurfacing from many of the same toxic people.
NBC News has published an op-ed by Republican political strategist-turned Clinton advisor and Dem strategist David Brock titled “Bernie Sanders’ fans can’t be allowed to poison another Democratic primary with personal attacks — Bashing Beto O’Rourke (and every other Democrat) doesn’t help liberals’ cause in 2020. It only helps Trump.” The article explicitly blames Hillary Clinton’s loss to Donald Trump on supporters of Bernie Sanders who criticized her during the primary, and makes it clear that such criticisms must be forcefully and aggressively fought against this time around.
“I’m hardly the only political observer who blames Hillary Clinton’s general election defeat to Donald Trump in part on personal attacks on Clinton first made by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and his backers,” Brock’s article begins. “Those attacks from her left laid the groundwork for copycat attacks lobbed by Donald Trump — and, in the process, helped hand the Supreme Court to the right-wing for a generation.”
Haha. Last election, David Brock ran a social media smear machine for HRC. https://t.co/HKkY5zljAa
— Yasha Levine (@yashalevine) January 3, 2019
Citing no evidence, Brock goes on to accuse journalists and social media users of staging a “coordinated effort” to “attack” Beto O’Rourke and other presidential hopefuls, as though coordination would be necessary for criticisms and questions to emerge about the voting records and campaign donations of public officials seeking the highest political office on the planet. The implication, of course, is that no criticisms of any kind should be leveled at Democratic presidential primary contestants, leaving narrative-shaping authority solely in the hands of the plutocratic media and beltway manipulators like David Brock.
Brock concludes his screed as follows:
In 2016, I ran a pro-Hillary SuperPAC which attempted to defend the candidate against false attacks, many of which came from or originated to her left. Though they were hardly in charge of our messaging, it was made very clear to us by our allies at her campaign headquarters that any efforts on our part to push back against the left-wing anti-Clinton brigades were unwelcome assistance; they feared alienating Sanders’ voters.
That head-in-the-sand posture was ultimately self-defeating.
Today, Democrats are rightly laser-focused on picking a winner in 2020, and the stakes are just too high to let bad faith actors — whose real aim is to smear Democrats as no different than Republicans — stage inter-party schisms. If Sanders decides to run again this time, he should focus on policy and eschew character attacks on Democrats — and admonish his supporters to do the same. Otherwise, they put the core values we all share at risk, yet again.
It is unclear what “character attacks” Brock is claiming Sanders made; the entirety of criticisms leveled by Sanders and the overwhelming majority of his supporters were directed at the policy decisions Clinton made in her political career and the shady places she took money from. What is clear is that the pro-Hillary SuperPAC he is referring to was the infamous “Correct the Record” troll operation, which employed literal shills to deceitfully pose as grassroots Hillary supporters online whose job was to attack anyone who criticized her. This despicable tactic was incalculably disruptive to online political discourse in 2016, and Brock clearly wants to implement a far more aggressive version of his operation in the 2020 primaries.
https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1080884206786363397
“Let’s be clear about what’s going on here: this is a deliberate Dem Party effort to try to intimidate journalists and advocacy groups into not reporting on voting records and campaign donations,” tweeted progressive investigative journalist David Sirota in response to Brock’s article, adding, “Wanna know why I rejected working for this guy? That’s why.” Sirota had agreed to work with Brock on a new outlet billed as “The left’s answer to Breitbart” in early 2017, but later backed out of the project. Brock’s liberal Breitbart never materialized.
If you want a quality illustration of what a manipulative sociopath David Brock is, contrast his obnoxious, dishonest accusatory screed with his open letter to Sanders at the beginning of 2017 titled “Dear Senator Sanders: I’m with You in the Fight Ahead”. Brock apologized for his harsh attacks on Sanders, gushed about the way Bernie “electrified millions” with his campaign and pledged to work with him to harness that energy against Trump. Brock wanted something from Sanders (control of his base in this case), so he smothered him in flattery; now people are criticizing Beto “Like Obama, only white” O’Rourke, and all of a sudden Sanders is back to being a red commie menace whose “character attacks” are to blame for Hillary Clinton’s loss. Brock has no relationship with truth beyond his ability to twist it to get things he wants.
Hillary Clinton is to blame for Hillary Clinton’s loss, actually, as well as the strategists like David Brock who were behind her spectacular failure to defeat a historically unpopular reality TV star Republican. Establishment Democrats are trying to sell the narrative that “You progressives disobeyed us in 2016 and what happened was your fault; you will obey us this time,” while progressives are saying “No, you ignored us in 2016 and what happened was your fault; you will listen to us this time.” The early 2020 presidential race is repeating the same battle of official narrative manufactured by corporate elites versus the organic zeitgeist–the way ordinary people are feeling inside as a result of the conditions their government has put them in. I’m not sure how much coverage I’ll be giving to the US presidential election this time around, but it will be interesting to see how this dynamic plays out.
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75 responses to “Clinton Crony Says Bernie Supporters Must Be Silenced For 2020 Primaries”
Well, if Brock was a Clinton advisor, no wonder she had to play crooked losing games to TRY to win! His advise, pushing Bernie Sanders under the table, is what helped Trump win! We already knew that the nation had rejected Clinto for the presidency BEFORE! Why would we change our mind? Bernie Sanders was the predicted winner, which is WHY they had to crookedly keep his name off the ballot because they KNEW he would have won! His massive crowds, at EVERY single rally, SCREAM how much the majority wants BERNIE! It’s the same this year! We have always loved our DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM! We just never called it by that name because there is so much ignorance around, trying to confuse OUR kind with the DICTATOR-RUN Communist kid, and they are ABSOLUTELY different! We have LOVED OUR Democratic Socialism here in the USA, since 1933 and FDR’s NEW DEAL!
I for one have had it with those FAKE ELECTIONS!
How many times will we have to “choose” between EVILS?
Why do people continue to support & even VOTE for these DAM WAR CRIMINALS?
For decades, I have watched as the “two” parties present their “platforms” platforms that mean NOTHING as once they are SELECTED by TPTB, it will be the same CRAP, endless wars, tax breaks for the disgustingly RICH & BIG CORPORATIONS, continued raping of OUR LANDS, open borders for illegal migrants to drop “anchor babies” that will become instant “citizens”, protection of illegal immigrants who are given our jobs, free trade that only benifits the rich etc etc etc!
Once again the dems will bring out health care for all but still tied to the PRIVATE FOR PROFIT insurance companies so it’s still NOT “affordable” & health CARE still isn’t for “all”, environmental protection laws with no teeth, more jobs that pay a poverty wage & the continuation of our illegal, immoral, unjust dam WARS!
Forget the “vote” it’s WORTHLESS!
They might give us a few crumbs like state legal cannabis but it’s still a FEDERAL FELONY so just having it state legal means NOTHING HAS CHANGED!
Come the 2020 “elections”, I’m not wasting my efforts with our FAKE “ELECTIONS”, RIGGED MACHINES, SWITCHED VOTES, GERRYMANDERING, VOTER DISENFRANCHISEMENT, RACISM AT THE POLLS, FAKE “BALLOTS” & when all else fails, the dam electoral “collage” will fix things for our RULERS!
We should ALL BOYCOT THE FAKE “ELECTIONS” IN 2020!
I wonder what you expect to achieve by boycottting an election. Likely will elect the monster again.
Caitlin is a GIRL’S NAME, is it not?
WRITE YOUR VOTE IN! USE a PAPER BALLOT! Our antiquated voting machines can be hacked by a 14 year old; yet, we keep them in operation anyway, year after year!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2299429723707837&set=p.2299429723707837&type=3&eid=ARBg7tB6_8zZv0L2dVqInGbUa9BVVR2Mt_sCTpP-lUeyumn_k2jfoBnt_TRlwM9unqHuOrjxHkpUO3VA
Bernie does what he’s told because he is a pedophile. That’s why he was photographed at Voodoo Donuts, the pedo palace with the child coffins. It’s our addiction to ideology that prevents us from seeing the truth.
*Queer Theory Pedophilia Jeopardy w/ Derrick Jenson* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u3hmZCsXoE
Such an idiot! Robert Callaghan is obviously an EVIL TROLL with 30+ identities, as they ALL have. He can’t get a REAL job because he never learned any SKILLS , and wasn’t smart enough to go to college! He’s trying to confuse Bernie Sanders with the REAL pedophile.
David Brock is another whoring war grub pissing in the pockets of Hillary and the other Global scum bags! Apparently this little pierce of shit didn’t get the message about “Lying Hillary”. What low life animals they are, I wouldn’t waste my piss on either if they were on fire!
“Bernie Sanders is this election’s Democratic sheepdog. The sheepdog is a card the Democratic party plays every presidential primary season when there’s no White House Democrat running for re-election. The sheepdog is a presidential candidate running ostensibly to the left of the establishment Democrat to whom the billionaires will award the nomination. Sheepdogs are herders, and the sheepdog candidate is charged with herding activists and voters back into the Democratic fold who might otherwise drift leftward and outside of the Democratic party, either staying home or trying to build something outside the two party box.
1984 and 88 the sheepdog candidate was Jesse Jackson. In 92 it was California governor Jerry Brown. In 2000 and 2004 the designated sheepdog was Al Sharpton, and in 2008 it was Dennis Kucinich. This year it’s Vermont senator Bernie Sanders. The function of the sheepdog candidate is to give left activists and voters a reason, however illusory, to believe there’s a place of influence for them inside the Democratic party, if and only if the eventual Democratic nominee can win in November.”
https://www.blackagendareport.com/bernie-sanders-sheepdog-4-hillary
Best comment in ages
PLEASE PAY ATTENTION!! The SHEEPDOG this time is Joe Biden! Last election, it was Hillary Clinton!
‘historically unpopular reality TV star Republican’
It’s easy to cut and paste this, but it’s hardly accurate. First, Trump is stupid. But, he is mainly known as a real-estate developer. Something he did for decades before the ‘Apprentice’ ever appeared. If you grew up in or near NYC, Trump was a widely known public figure. And, he had been active politically for decades as well (birther nonsense, as well as things less stupid). So, he was hardly a ‘reality star’ that popped up from nowhere. For God’s sake the guy was 70 years old when he was elected.
Hillary was not just stupid, she was on the absolute wrong side of the political stream … a Democrat that takes millions in bribes from Wall Street. She had more in common with the worst of the old Republican party than anything else, covered up with some identity politics BS, which many Democrats swallowed.
Trump and Clintons go way back and both are owned by the Khazarian mafia that runs the Anglo-Zionist empire. All 3 major world leaders have close ties to Henry Kissinger.
Here’s your problem.
You BELIEVE this “millions of dollars in bribes” smear without even questioning it.
Your Cult doesn’t question ANY of the Propaganda.
Here’s your problem.
You BELIEVE this “millions of dollars in bribes” smear without even questioning it.
Your Cult doesn’t question ANY of the Propaganda.
It never enters your mind that an accusation can be false.
“The implication, of course, is that no criticisms of any kind should be leveled at Democratic presidential primary contestants.” Of course, he somehow forgets that The Clinton faction was not only always criticizing Sanders, but that they rigged the primary season against him, in many cases through law-breaking on the part of state Democratic parties. Odd, isn’t it, that under a Republican majority, there have been no prosecution of individuals who engaged in those crimes. Does it not suggest the possibility of collusion between the two major parties?
Sandernistas were somehow shocked when Sanders capitulated to HRC, however it was widely known that Sanders role in this political theater is to be the sheepdog of the so called progressive left.
https://www.blackagendareport.com/bernie-sanders-sheepdog-4-hillary
He is a gatekeeper like Chomsky.
Thanks for sharing that about Chomsky. Good analysis. Am saving that for later.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_6iXW17eJmga9hYsIyOG8P_1oeBXEKiZ
try this.
“Sandernistas were somehow shocked when Sanders capitulated to HRC”
Capitulated?
He LOST.
She got more votes. What did you expect, a million Berners looting and burning?
Sanders to DEMAND that he replace the legitimate winner?
BTW, that IS how Adolf became Chancellor in 1932.
Hindenburg gave him a job in return for the names of his BrownShirts.
Are you seriously that clueless about all of the elction fraud that occurred across the country? HRC didn’t win; she colluded with election and party officials in nearly every state.
This is just from San Diego (and there was more going on there, as well):
https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/Election-Monitors-in-San-Diego-Catch-Whited-Out-Sanders-Votes-on-Film
Or when Bill Clinton was campaigning in front of a polling location:
https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/48i8q3/bill_clinton_appearance_locking_a_voting_poll_new/
Or when Alex Padilla, the Secretary of State in CA, was campaigning and fundraising for HRC — imagine if the election official in the country’s most populous state had done this for Trump…you’d never hear the end of it.
Or when the election was called in California the day before the election.
There were stories literally from nearly every state that detailed HRC’s cheating. That’s one of the reasons that so many Bernie supporters voted for Johnson, Stein, or Trump. If they had voted for HRC, that would have meant that they condoned the corruption. Why do you think anyone owed HRC their vote after what she did?
No. Bernie Sanders did NOT “lose”! The DNC, with Debbie Wasserrman SNAKE, Donna Brazile, and Hillary, invented their “SUPER-DELEGATE” minion puppets, who then CROOKEDLY, kept Bernie Sanders’ nane OFF the ballot completely because they KNEW he would win if his name were there! He was PREDICTED to be the winner. BY THEIR CROOKED GAME, they, INSTEAD, helped the Russian trolls put Donald Trump into office, so you can all thank that crew of crooks for our current incompetent child freak. Voters all had the BIG CHOICE? of holding their noses and voting for Hillary, whom they had already rejected once before, OR voting for the incompetent “businessman?”, idiot child, who has lived off his Daddy his entire life, until he now lives off US! BIG choice! The DNC crookedness actually HELPED give us Trump BY that crooked game! They’ll do it again, if given the chance!
@Caitlin Sorry, I should’ve read what you wrote more carefully.
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Just reading the comments section of this article makes me want to find a cave to hide in until the 2020 elections are over. The purity police are at it again, insisting on strict adherence to ideological principles and a flaunting a willingness to accept the greater of two evils candidate regardless of the consequences for real people, who just want their lives to be made a little more tolerable and don’t give a crap about ideology. If Bernie must compromise in order to function in the existing political system, then that is what he should do.
It should be pointed out that there has been a sizable leftward shift in the sentiments of the Democratic Party base, and Bernie deserves a good part of the credit for that shift. It was he who brought Medicare for all, free college tuition and forgiveness of student debt into the realm of acceptable public discourse. The Dem Party establishment had always considered such policies out of bounds. Well, not anymore, as those policies have been shown to have broad popularity amongst Democrats and the general voting population.
So, I say let the purists fulminate and vote for whichever candidate makes them feel better about themselves. They are largely irrelevant.
A question – Why don’t leftists just vote for the Socialist Party? If socialism is your goal then why not just openly support it?
DUHHH?? We have already has DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM in the USA since FDR’s NEW DEAL! Are you not even an American that you never too American HISTORY?? We LOVE it! NO! We don’t have a dictator, like the Communist Socialists, which is WHY it works so well! We ALSO own all our own property, so the government cannot give MY cows or chickens to someone else! We LOVE our K-12 public school system, our Social Security checks, our police and fire departments, our interstate highways, system, our military defense system, and on and on, and on! EVERY program we have that we can all use, and it paid for out of our combined taxes, IS part of our DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST system! WE even get to OWN our own property and even a business is we want! Click , READ, and get EDUCATED:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America
Can’t BELIEVE I REALLY type that poorly, but you’re smart enough to figure it all out! Sorry, I had to take so many science classes in high school that I didn’t have time to fit typing into my schedule!
“Purity police” Oh jeez. Don’t you want to throw something n there about people not voting for the lesser evil are showing their “priviledge”, and some screed about “we must save the country from Trump/’whatever GOP candidate”. and a few other neoliberal dog whistles?
The democrartic party base hasn’t shifted to the left — that’s a false narrative pushed by the same mainstream media who help normalize war criminals like GW Bush with his cutesy luvbunny exchanges with Michelle. But the purity police are holding him accounatbel for his lethal imperialism, those meanies!
Rationalizing imperialism can work because enough people accept that a corrupt two-party (really one party) system is normal.
Stop it!!
I am well aware that Bernie is not perfect, but then who is? He just happens to be the furthest left candidate who would have a chance in hell of winning a presidential election. The alternative, realistically speaking, is a president who is to Bernie’s right. Evidently, that prospect bothers you less than voting for the better, though not ideal, candidate. Of course, in your tiny mind, there are no shades of gray, only black and white, good and bad. Have fun voting for a sure loser. No doubt, you will sleep better at night as the country sinks further into a right wing nightmare.
Robm you wrote:
“is not perfect, but then who is? ”
That’s a rationalization which implies that anyone expects perfection. It diverts the discussion toward an irrational premise and has nothing to do with reality.
“He just happens to be the furthest left candidate who would have a chance in hell of winning a presidential election. ”
That’s categorically false. He’s not the “furtheest left” and you presume that the Dupoloy will continue dictating the electoral system, which shows you’re neither progressive nor committed to teh significant change needed to restore democracy.
Have fun keeping your head stuck in the Matrix, and the duopoly it runs to keep yur mind colonized.
So his strategy is: More of Same – mud slinging.
That should work great.
Democrats and republicans represent themselves – un-“populism”.
Personally,
I would support third party but Trump is close enough for now and can actually win.
I will forever remember, with gratitude and respect, the Syria thing if he holds, it is a rare (for Washington) act of wisdom and bravery and it will all have been worth it.
When are Bernie admirers going to wake up and realize that Bernie is the dog that doesn’t bark?
And don’t look just at acts of omission (like failing to join the lawsuit against the DNC for fraudulently rigging their primary and thus robbing one-time naive Bernie donators like myself). Look at the national “goodwill tour” he embarked on after the 2016 “election”. If he was not playing along in the kayfabe, why would he go out of his way to help resuscitate the political machine that robbed him and his supporters and gave the election to Trump?
We are all being played. But, some more than others.
Bernie’s LIFE is proof enough what he is made of! Only the super-rich don’t want him because then, they’ll have to pay their “FAIR SHARE” of taxes again. They like it MUCH better when the lower income people have to pay their taxes FOR THEM! Democratic Socialist, Franklin Delano Roosevelt was SO WELL LOVED that he just kept getting re-elected and re-elected! FDR’s the REASON the presidential office got its term limits! Our Democratic Socialism is so LOVED, that we still incorporate it as our PRIMARY system of programs, since 1933! We have all LIVED and LOVED our Democratic Socialism SINCE FDR in the 1930’s. His NEW DEAL was only the beginning! We have loved it since we were BORN, and it has worked WELL since those 1930’s.
“Brock has no relationship with truth beyond his ability to twist it to get things he wants.”
A perfect fit for the left then.
David Brock looks like that kid in school who had no friends because he acted like he was better than they were! There was always ONE of those!
As a ‘Still Sanders’ supporters, I am all for the silencing of David Brock!
As a Still Sanders supporters, I am all for the silencing of David Brock!
People like Brock merely confirm the corruption of the mainstream Democratic party, and reinforce the need for genuine progressives like Sanders.
Genuine progressive? Sanders was a pawn paid for and silenced by the Clinton mafia. He was willingly set up to run against the witch knowing and agreeing to losing. He got a fine lake front mansion paid for by us taxpayers in exchange for agreeing to lose. He is sickening. I wanted to believe him, tried to believe in him but ultimately accepted the fact that he is more of the same polished bullshit politician. I voted for trump. And still do not regret my decsison.
Smear recorded. Now tell us: Are you planning to vote for Trump again?
Wapiti’s assessment is correct.
Bernie shmeared (sic) himself – doesn’t need anyone else to shmear (sic) him.
And I didn’t vote – ‘coz thankfully I ain’t a yank – nor have an interest in being one (I’m not deluded or delusional in thinking that I or the country I live in is ‘eceptional or indispensible).
Exactly, Sanders is bought and paid for sheepdog. Trump is being paid by the same folks as well.
The house was bought with Jane’s inheritance from her grandfather. You post shit that is not true, you have no link for your lie. You are scum.
Anyone stupid enough to vote for trump does not have any credibility.
Left or right should fight against the evil that divide us .Divide and rule is the elite play .Learn from yellow vest occupy the streets in vast numbers. Direct Democracy by the people for the people.
Yes! Brock is a sociopath. He is not to be trusted.
Bernie is a major faker. Progressives who pay attention know that. There’s no shortage of info online for those who want to know. And caring is knowing is caring.
I love it when they just come out and say directly that they hate democracy.
Basically he’s saying, “We hate you. We hate that you even think you might have a voice in what happens in your country We hate democracy and everything that America was founded to represent. Just sit down and shut up and give us your vote because we own your vote. Your vote is our slave, its on our chain, and we yank it anytime we feel like it. Remember, we the Democrats were the pro-slavery party, and now its your vote we have in our chains. You have to vote for anyone selected by the corporations, and you’d better like it.”
In 2016; I canvassed for Senator Sanders, did without a percentage of groceries and risked getting my electricity turned off to continue donating to his campaign; and fought brock’s “Correct teh record” trolls online.
Time and further info proved that Senator Sanders was/is a sheepdog for the DNC, unfortunately.
It is quite likely that the drama from Brock is a way to get people to feel protective of/re-aligned with Sanders. It certainly siphons attention away from needed focus on 3rd parties and breaking the duopoly.
Both parties are accessories to murder. If you vote for them, you are too.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48750.htm
Max, bingfuckno! If one votes for a candidate, left or right, one is freely giving their permission to the politician to act in their, the voter’s, name. Whatever blood is on the politician’s hands is also on the hands of the voters who gave him/her the authority to act in their name. This is why I do not vote, to keep my hands clean.
The 2016 campaign, true to the 2-party system, gave us a choice between Cancer and Syphilis. So I voted for a candidate I could truly support, Jill Stein, even though she had no hope of winning. But in the primary I voted for Bernie Sanders…only to watch as the DNC machine threw him under the bus. My head was still spinning when Sanders then got behind Hillary and did what we could to herd the Progressives into the slaughter, as only a Judas Goat could. As such, I don’t trust Bernie one bit. His ‘independent’ status is very questionable to those of us who are aware of his record…he morphs into a Democrat whenever it suits the powers that be. Why should we expect that the DNC would actually let him win this time around? I’ve concluded that the only way to make real change is by changing the system, not just the faces. So, I’m going to vote Green again, for better or for worse.
Well said. The “bernie the rebel scares the DNC” schtick doesn’t hold water, now. He’s a sheepdog who has become less effective as people catch on and wake up.
Bernie was quite clear from the very beginning of his campaign about what he was doing. He pledged early on (to please the corporate Democrats like Brock here) that he would support Hillary when Hillary won the nomination. He gave the standard weak, lefty-Dem spiel about ‘making our voices heard’ as the reason he was running, and swore he was a loyal Democrat through and through and that he would support Hillary.
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Given that I knew the Dems are corrupt before 2016, and that statement, I didn’t take Bernie very seriously. He wasn’t going to win and he was going to back Hillary in the end.
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I did join the Democrats just long enough to caucus for Bernie. I was constantly looking to the heavens for the lightening bolts that would strike me down for joining a party that openly says it is evil, but only claims to be slightly less evil than the devil. But, no lightening bolts came.
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In the fall, I could not vote for Hillary. I felt going in that this time the Democrat candidate was indeed the Greatest Evil. They had surpassed Satan herself. Hillary was openly promising war. She was promising a no-fly zone in Syria, an act that the joint chiefs had said would start a war. And it sure sounded like that Hillary would start a nuclear war with Russia if elected. She was certainly willing to trash important relations with a nuclear power for her own greedy personal power play when she blamed the Russians on what was leaked by an obviously young and naive DNC staffer who actually believes in democracy.
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I’d voted for Cynthia McKinney and Jill Stein in the past elections. But this time I was in a battleground state and Hillary had to be stopped. So, I voted for Trump. Again, no lightening bolts from heaven. And if we make it to 2020 without a nuclear war that destroys human civilization then I’ll still say I was right because I sure as heck believed that Hillary would kill us all.
Amen. I could not vote for Killary. So voted for Trump. So far no nuclear holocost, some conversation with N K and now rumblings we may pull away from Syria and Afghanistan.
That answers my earlier question.
What is the prospect going into the Iowa caucus on February 3, 2020 (13 months ahead)? Progressives like Sanders and Warren will be accused of having rigid and ideological litmus-tests on big money donations, stopping perpetual war, Medicare-for-all, green new deal, $15 minimum wage, free college tuition, etc, and not having any regard for healing the Democratic Party so that it can defeat Trump. A majority of Iowans will likely be convinced to support an “electable” candidate such as Biden, O’Rourke, Clinton, Bloomberg, or Steyer. But there will be a wrinkle in that absentee ballots in California’s primary will start to be counted on the same date, so the sound bites at that time should not all be from one state.
Progressives like Sanders and Warren will be splitting the “decent human” portion of the voting public, all to the advantage of the corporate Dems.
Three mansion Sanders and Native American (1/250,000th) Warren are embarassments. Please see the light.
Nothing has changed. The DNC was just acquitted of the “Montreal Screwjob” in the Primary, with the judge rightfully noting that they had every right to do so. Why? Because they’re a Private Corporation and are not subject to any obligation to voters. The Super-delegates are appointed and have no legal obligation to vote as their constituency thinks they’re directing them to.
And now, we have Pelosi’s first act is to try to ram through Paygo – she might as well be a fucking Republican. See the excellent Truthdig article about the “Two Santa Claus Con”, relating to the institution of Supply-Side Economics. Paygo is handing the baton back to the Republicans. Pelosi is useless to a Progressive. I don’t know how she managed to eek out the Speaker role.
And HRC – she just doesn’t get that people have her number and had it. She fooled no-one but the Trump Fearful. Those same folks are so focused on beating Trump now, Not On Policy, that they are a danger to anyone wishing to move the Dems to the new platform. Hillary needs to just go away and stfu.
So, fuck the Democrats. I hope Bernie/Gabbard runs as an independent. I think we would see history made.
Ms. Plastic Face Pelosi stays in her power role because of the money she can pull into her party through her slimy tentacles. Google it. Ms. Botox is a frightening, has-been cliche of the female gender.
David Swanson penned “Is there anything Nancy Pelosi would impeach a president, vice president, or justice for?” It’s an entertaining read. See: http://davidswanson.org/is-there-anything-nancy-pelosi-would-impeach-a-president-vice-president-or-justice-for/
There is a MAJOR schism going on in the democrat party between what I call the “old (and highly corrupt) guard” and the new “progressives” like that Cortez woman from the Bronx. The Old Guard sees that they are losing control and are trying to co-op the Progressives by paying them lip service while still conducting business as usual. It isn’t working. What they’re warning the Progressives not to do is what they are planning to do to the Progressives themselves. In the end I expect that the Progressives to win simply by living longer than the Old Guard, many of whom are in the 60’s, 70’s and even 80’s and at that point they will be indistinguishable from the Communist Party USA.
“What is clear is that the pro-Hillary SuperPAC he is referring to was the infamous “Correct the Record” troll operation, which employed literal shills to deceitfully pose as grassroots Hillary supporters online whose job was to attack anyone who criticized her. This despicable tactic was incalculably disruptive to online political discourse in 2016, ”
1) Accuse the enemy of exactly what you are doing.
2) No sh*t, it was disruptive. My Conservadem friends went on and on insulting any progressive not in the HRC cult. And they were immune to any and all facts about primary rigging. They lost my respect completely.
Hyper-partisans are a shining example of faith-based politics. Never question the party.
Hyper-partisans have a faith-based approach to politics. Including the “liberals”.
Spot on.
You keep telling it like it is! You are hero, even a saint. Listen up, rest of the nation!!!
“What is clear is that the pro-Hillary SuperPAC he is referring to was the infamous “Correct the Record” troll operation, which employed literal shills to deceitfully pose as grassroots Hillary supporters online whose job was to attack anyone who criticized her. This despicable tactic was incalculably disruptive to online political discourse in 2016, ”
1) Accuse the enemy of exactly what you are doing.
2) No sh*t, it was disruptive. My Conservadem friends went on and on insulting any progressive not in the HRC cult. And they were immune to any and all facts about primary rigging. They lost my respect completely.
Hyper-partisans have a faith-based approach to politics. Including the “liberals”.
They’ll take a dive before they yield the Party to its membership.. They’re just like the GOP in that regard.
I’ve thought a great idea would be a “yellow vest” assault on the DNC; not just the headquarters but the offices and abodes of its elected officials, and every other member no matter who or where.
Who the hell do they think they are?
We obviously need a third party, or for progressive Democrats to join the Green Party. My other advice to the Democrats is LOCK HER UP!!! and Comey and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and many others, clean house of the worst criminals. Then go working on the Bush crime family criminals (which includes Comey, Mueller, and Cheney among others…
The Green Party is run by Democrat collaborators. Start something new and fresh.
Notice that one of the things that made the Yellow Vest protests work in France is that they stayed clear from the fake leftist politicians and they stayed clear of the corporate-servant unions.
Starting something new and yet un-corrupted has its benefits.
And, somebody please find 500 people to run for Congress on the same platform. If not, a President Sanders would be in the exact position Trump is in with only a minority caucus of supporters backing the President. All the Republicans of course hate Sanders, and the corporate Dems would also not really want to work with him. The corporate Dems would impose another PayGo and would fight any money being moved from the War, Death, Destruction, Torture and Spying budget. In such a situation, a President Sanders would be powerless. So,, please, find 500 people to run for Congress in 2020.
I think we need to move away from party politics entirely. Any party can become corrupted — parties are used by the rich and powerful to shunt people into specifically designed camps that are set up to push certain (capitalist/globalist) economic agendas. They use emotionally-charged issues to manipulate people into voting against their own interests; in the U.S., both parties do this equally.
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Parties facilitate corruption because it’s easier to control a handful of political parties than it is to control thousands of independent politicians across the country. Parties are also used to dumb-down the populace because people are manipulated to vote for or against political parties instead of voting for/against individual people or issues. People are encouraged to become apathetic and ignorant as a result — they feel no need to study the history or positions of candidates or issues, they just “check the right box” based on what a political party tells them to do.
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What we need is a totally new political and electoral system. We have the technology to give all candidates (and voters) an online questionnaire that can prioritize issues and tell voters which candidates support the issues that matter most to them — and each candidate (or issue) would have a publicly-sponsored webpage linked with their name and voting/action history, along with a one-page bio and information piece where they can sell themselves based on their past actions and ideas for the future. We could then use a type of ranked-choice voting system where the first person to get 70% of the people’s top three votes would win the election (if nobody gets 70% of the first-choice pick in the first round, they would add in the second-choice candidates, and if nobody got to 70% of the first and second-choice candidates, then they could open it up to the third, etc.) — we could continue adding to a predetermined 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th-choice slot until a candidate/issue reaches a certain approval percentage. That way, nobody would feel compelled to vote against a particular politician, and the winner would be someone that is at least palatable to the great majority. This could be used in a primary to narrow down the candidates, and then open up a series of publicly-sponsored debates, with a second round of voting in this ranked-choice style where the final winner would be chosen (again with a majority of the voters approval). This is just one idea, but it would be many times better than what we’re dealing with now, IMO.
Why have candidates at all? Why not use the technology to create a political system where there is no concentration of power? The concentration of power is the root problem. Power needs to remain diffuse, and the Internet is a diffuse medium.
Gene, absolutely! The issue is power, never mind who wields it. A diffusion of power i.e. secession is the only answer. Everything else is just more of the same.
Agreed, Gene Poole; that would be the ideal. Of course, the Constitution would be used to block that — and my idea as well — but direct democracy should be the long-term goal. I’m just thinking of something that might be a bit easier to implement in the near term.
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Arby is also correct to point out that people need to fully educate themselves regarding all of these issues. Based on my experience with people in the “real world,” we are a long way from that goal.
Electoral politics is a trap for many reasons. But people will still try to use them.
MOST important, to my mind, is simple education. I’m not talking, of course, about corporate media offerings. People don’t read. Buy books people. Read them aggressively – marking them up, using them in discussions online, and consider blogging (You don’t have to be an expert) – and keep them. You can buy books cheap online and in second hand bookstores. Read around online. Don’t get stuck on one website. Why would you? And DO NOT do hero worship.