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That Time John Bolton Said It’s Good To Lie About War

Journalist Whitney Webb recently tweeted a 2010 video clip I’d never seen before featuring US National Security Advisor John Bolton defending the use of deception in advancing military agendas, which highlights something we should all be paying attention to as Trump administration foreign policy becomes increasingly Boltonized.

On a December 2010 episode of Fox News’ Freedom Watch, Bolton and the show’s host Andrew Napolitano were debating about recent WikiLeaks publications, and naturally the subject of government secrecy came up.

“Now I want to make the case for secrecy in government when it comes to the conduct of national security affairs, and possibly for deception where that’s appropriate,” Bolton said. “You know Winston Churchill said during World War Two that in wartime truth is so important it should be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies.”

“Do you really believe that?” asked an incredulous Napolitano.

“Absolutely,” Bolton replied.

“You would lie in order to preserve the truth?”

“If I had to say something I knew was false to protect American national security, I would do it,” Bolton answered.

“I don’t think we’re often faced with that difficulty, but would I lie about where the D-Day invasion was going to take place to deceive the Germans, you’d better believe it,” Bolton continued.

“Why do people in the government think that the laws of society or the rules don’t apply to them?” Napolitano asked.

“Because they are not dealing in the civil society we live in under the Constitution,” Bolton replied. “They are dealing in the anarchic environment internationally where different rules apply.”

“But you took an oath to uphold the Constitution, and the Constitution mandates certain openness and certain fairness,” Napolitano protested. “You’re willing to do away with that in order to attain a temporary military goal?”

“I think as Justice Jackson said in a famous decision, the Constitution is not a suicide pact,” Bolton said. “And I think defending the United States from foreign threats does require actions that in a normal business environment in the United States we would find unprofessional. I don’t make any apology for it.”

So that’s a thing. And it’s important for us to know it’s a thing because of the way things are heating up in Iran right now, since Bolton’s fingerprints are all over it.

Bolton has long been calling for war with Iran and in a paid speech in July 2017 told his pro-regime change MEK terror cult audience that they would be celebrating the successful overthrow of the Iranian government together before 2019. Now we’re seeing threat alarms being elevated and fearmongering about Iranian missiles being circulated, with reports being leaked to the press of possible plans to send 120,000 US troops to the region.

This is an environment that is ripe for deceptions of all sorts, and, given what Bolton said on live television nearly a decade ago, we would all do very well to remain very, very skeptical of any and all news we hear about Iran going forward. If for example you hear that within this environment of escalated tensions and military posturing Iran or one of its “proxies” has attacked the United States in some way, your immediate response should be one of intense skepticism about what the mass media talking heads are telling you to believe.

Back in 2012 at a forum for the Washington Institute Of Near East Policy think tank, the group’s Director of Research Patrick Clawson openly talked about the possibility of using a false flag to provoke a war with Iran, citing the various ways the US has done exactly that with its previous wars.

“I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough, and it’s very hard for me to see how the United States president can get us to war with Iran,” Clawson began.

(Can I just pause here to note what a bizarre series of words that is? “Get us to war with Iran?” Get us to the thing that every sane human being wants to avoid with every fiber of their being? You want to “get us to” there? This is not the kind of thing normal humans say. You only hear this kind of insanity in the DC swamp where creatures like John Bolton have their roots.)

“Which leads me to conclude that if in fact compromise is not coming, that the traditional way that America gets to war is what would be best for US interests,” Clawson added. “Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into the war… you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor. Some people might think that Mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War One; you may recall we had to wait for the Lusitania episode. Some people might think that Mr. Johnson wanted to get us into Vietnam; you may recall we had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode. We didn’t go to war with Spain until the USS Maine exploded. And may I point out that Mr. Lincoln did not feel that he could call out the Army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing which the South Carolinians said would cause an attack.”

“So if, in fact, the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war,” Clawson continued. “One can combine other means of pressure with sanctions. I mentioned that explosion on August 17th. We could step up the pressure. I mean look people, Iranian submarines periodically go down. Some day, one of them might not come up. Who would know why? We can do a variety of things, if we wish to increase the pressure (I’m not advocating that) but I’m just suggesting that this is not an either/or proposition – just sanctions have to succeed or other things. We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that.”

So these are ideas that have been in circulation for many years. That gun is loaded and ready to fire.

Bolton trussed up his 2010 confession using an example that most people would agree with: that it was reasonable for the Allied forces to deliberately deceive the Nazis about the nature of the D-Day invasion. But we know John Bolton better than that by now. This PNAC director and architect of the Iraq war once threatened to murder a foreign official’s children because his successful diplomatic efforts were putting a damper on the manufacturing of consent for the Iraq invasion. He wasn’t defending the use of deception in crucial military options used to halt tyrants trying to take over the world, he was defending the use of deception in the senseless wars of aggression that he has built his political career on advancing.

Take everything you hear about Iran with a planet-sized grain of salt, dear reader, and everything you hear about Venezuela too while we’re on the subject. There are skillful manipulators who are hell bent on toppling the governments of those nations, and they have absolutely no problem whatsoever with deceiving you in order to facilitate that. And they don’t believe the rules apply to them.

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  • Aside from my musings (which very much represent my ‘philosophy’, if you like) in my other comment in this discussion, I think Caitlin’s post here is very important.

  • The “thing” just isn’t news to me.

    ““I don’t think we’re often faced with that difficulty, but would I lie about where the D-Day invasion was going to take place to deceive the Germans, you’d better believe it,” Bolton continued.” But actions speak louder than words. And, on the subject of words, we have to translate the liars’ words, constantly. (for example: National security mans the security and well being of those who own and run the world, period.) Bolton’s statement, above, has the implication, in fact, that people like Bolton are normal and normally honest. Actually, Bolton is not normal. He’s self-modified, as we are all free to do. His values and desires are now unnatural. And he’s never honest. (He might tell the truth about something like his favorite color. So what?)

    I would argue, though, that dishonesty is the norm and is considered normal. Did anyone see that recent episode of the screwy (but entertaining, often) tv show Supernatural? The almost almighty Jack issues a command for everyone to stop lying. Everyone stops lying and chaos ensures (on this fictional show). That gets corrected but the well-meaning Jack, in conversation with his guardian, the angel Castiel, agrees, essentially, that telling the truth doesn’t work. While the show is fictional, that idea represents a truth. Most people, who choose to be honest only when they want to be, also choose to rationalize that conduct. Those like me – choosing to not lie, period – are now seen by the rationalizers as abnormal.

    The world is ruined.

  • So how did we arrive here, especially at this crucial juncture? It’s important to understand it. The 200-year progression of this history is at once instructive and frightening. We can see the consequences of rationalizing colonization and partisan politics influenced by religion. To exclude the rights of one group over another, the law of love is replaced by violence.

    South Africa’s former director of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, Georgetown professor Charles Villa-Vicencio, explained it’s the fault line running through Western civilization. In the first century of the Common Era the church was born, and the synagogue was transformed in the midst of this issue…[about] religions separating groups, with the right of one group to dominate the other, or whether they bring humankind to the realization of our unity and connectedness as children of the Father, Abraham, and recipients of his promise to establish many nations.

    This is the central issue. The lobby, writ large, is the questionable combining of forces between the Israeli government and American Christian Zionists.
    https://www.wrmea.org/018-may/when-and-how-did-evangelicals-become-zionists.html

  • Baptists in the United States make up the largest branch on the Protestant family tree. According to a 2008 religious landscape study conducted by the Pew Forum On Religion & Public Life, Baptists account for one-third of all Protestants and 17.2 percent (38.7 million) of the overall adult population in the United States. Baptists make up a plurality (41 percent) of the “Evangelical Tradition,” 64 percent of the “Historically Black Tradition,” and 10 percent of the “Mainline Tradition.”

  • For the buffoons who can’t figure out why:Nancy Pelosi Won’t Even Take A Position On Contempt, Let Alone Impeachment on Super Zionist puppet Trump.

    Pelosi has also held staunchly pro-Israel views that have at times even out flanked the GOP from the right.

    Succession of the U.S presidency
    1Vice President Mike Pence Republican- Christian Zionist(Evangelical Baptist)
    2Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi Zionist sycophant(Catholic)
    3President pro tempore of the Senate Chuck Grassley – Christian Zionist(Evangelical Baptist)
    4Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Christian Zionist(Evangelical Baptist)

    When and How Did Evangelicals Become Zionists?
    https://www.wrmea.org/018-may/when-and-how-did-evangelicals-become-zionists.html

  • These people are pure evil by any definition. Pure, unadulterated. evil.

  • Once people start realizing that the “US Centralized Empire” is actually the Anglo-Zionist empire then shit will actually start to change.

    The US is populated by and led by Christian Zionist and the main thrust of the Trumpanzees are Christian Zionist.

    The anti-abortion laws are being pushed by Christian Zionist.

    Mike Pompeo believes Trump is part of biblical prophecy.

    John Bolton was given an award by the Zionist Organization of America.

    Bolton parlayed his connection with the primary financier behind both Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump himself—the militantly Zionist casino magnate Sheldon Adelson—to get Trump’s ear last October, just as the president was preparing to announce his policy on the Iran nuclear agreement.

    Sheldon Adelson, Trump string puller, main priority is Israel

    Jared Kushner, Trump’s brain, is a zionist and main priority is Israel.

    Why are anti-BDS laws are being pushed all around the world at the same time?

    Go educate yourselves about christian zionism and why Israel is allowed to commit crimes against humanity with impunity.

    It is the continuation of Manifest Destiny/White Man’s Burden/God’s Chosen

    https://www.blackagendareport.com/adrift-decolonizing-world-white-settler-makes-final-furious-stand

  • Unfortunately, the maniacs running the government of the United States of America are liable to do anything no matter how crazy it is; and no matter what it may end up causing!!! When I wake up in the morning I thank the Heavens that these idiots have not blown this planet up as yet!!!!

  • so we know Bolton wants to lie and in anyway shape or form.

    Saudi ships were supposedly attacked when all this started. HAs anyone shown proof of that or is it all bs narrative from a lying saudi arabia?

  • Someone needs to school Bolton on International Law and the binding nature of international treaties such as the Geneva Accords and the Articles of the UN. He obviously doesn’t have a glimmer. Give him time off to take a course. A lot of time off. International law is important to us as well as other countries because we want to be treated equally. Perfidy is an international war crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy

    It isn’t just the Constitution. Treaties have the same status as domestic laws and they can be enforced. The Constitution does not countenance war crimes. The power to declare wars is a Congressional power.

    • The US Elite do not give a shit about international or US Constitutional law. When “they’re all in it together”, who in the US or internationally is going to enforce those laws (stop the US doing what it is doing)? The US is betting its existence on ….”nobody”.

  • If you want to look the devil in the face to learn EXACTLY what the US Elite think about the rest of the world and, of course, their Exceptional role in it, read the following only-6-page document :
    h…ttps://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/082118_Mitchell_Testimony.pdf
    entitled:
    Statement of A. Wess Mitchell
    Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs
    Senate Foreign Relations Committee
    U.S. Strategy Towards the Russian Federation
    Tuesday, August 21, 2018

    ..
    And if you want to truly understand the words “irony” and “hypocrisy”, watch JFK’s so-called “Pax Americana” speech at American University in 1963, just a few months before he was murdered by the CIA in Dallas.
    h..ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fkKnfk4k40
    Take careful note of what Kennedy says beginning at 9:17. Here’s a transcript of that IMO most important part:

    “…………Second: Let us reexamine our attitude toward the Soviet Union. It is discouraging to think that their leaders may actually believe what their propagandists write. It is discouraging to read a recent authoritative Soviet text on Military Strategy and find, on page after page, wholly baseless and incredible claims–such as the allegation that “American imperialist circles are preparing to unleash different types of wars . . . that there is a very real threat of a preventive war being unleashed by American imperialists against the Soviet Union . . . [and that] the political aims of the American imperialists are to enslave economically and politically the European and other capitalist countries . . . [and] to achieve world domination . . . by means of aggressive wars.”

    Truly, as it was written long ago: “The wicked flee when no man pursueth.” Yet it is sad to read these Soviet statements–to realize the extent of the gulf between us. But it is also a warning–a warning to the American people not to fall into the same trap as the Soviets, not to see only a distorted and desperate view of the other side, not to see conflict as inevitable, accommodation as impossible, and communication as nothing more than an exchange of threats………”
    ..
    Now that we have the 20/20 hindsight of a decent understanding of history, compare what the US Elite said through their mouthpiece, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, to their Congressional slaves on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in August 2018, to what JFK said about Soviet “propaganda” in his speech at American University in 1963. With that 20/20 hindsight, I think that it is fair to say that those Soviet military strategists were “bang on” when it came to assessing the long-term objectives of the US.
    ..
    Additionally JFK’s warning to the US the American people in that speech “not to fall into the same trap as the Soviets, not to see only a distorted and desperate view of the other side, not to see conflict as inevitable, accommodation as impossible, and communication as nothing more than an exchange of threats” has most obviously been ignored. All you’ve got to do is watch Bolton, Pompeo, Trump, US MSM, morons of congress and that Mitchell pdf to know that that is absolutely true.

    • And what’s it all about?

    • Good comments, Ishkabble.
      The point is that Bolton really is spot on regarding deception in war time and his quote of Churchill is correct during WWII. The problem is he takes it too far. You don’t use deception to start wars with illegal perfidy against international law when diplomacy is still available and openness is essential. You don’t use it to trick Congress, the President and the Country into going to unneccessary and vicious wars they have to fight and die for to illegally and treacherously overthow democratically elected countries just because you don’t like them. WWII was started by Germany when Churchill made that statement. Wartime secrecy is necessary, of course.

      I could as easily imagine Hitler saying the same thing to justify invading Poland. In fact, Hitler did exactly that when he dressed up some concentration camp prisoners as Polish soldiers and staged an attack on Germany justifying WWII in the Gleiwitz Incident. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
      Obviously we would not agree in that case. Maybe they could justify the phony 911 attack the same way.

  • Thanks, Caitlin.
    ..
    Why does the US need perpetual enemies and perpetual war?

    • Hi Ish,
      .
      Besides the Benjamins?
      .
      Gotta have a Manchean Devil around somewhere to keep the herd under control. Without an external threat, that fear, the unwashed masses might start getting uppity.

    • Did you ever hear of the so-called alleged Ledeen Doctrine? We do it to impress the world that we are big and bad so don’t mess with us.
      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/03/the-real-radicals-of-the-iraq-war-its-proponents/273751/

      •”I’ve long been an admirer of, if not a full-fledged subscriber to, what I call the ‘Ledeen Doctrine.’ I’m not sure my friend Michael Ledeen will thank me for ascribing authorship to him and he may have only been semi-serious when he crafted it, but here is the bedrock tenet of the Ledeen Doctrine in more or less his own words: ‘Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.'”

      So, yeah, it’s evil, on purpose. Don’t be so surprised. It was also expressed more or less the same way in PNAC.

  • VP Dick Cheney also spoke about using a false flag attack to start a U.S.-Iran war. He and other neocons felt another 9-11 would be enough to start such a war. The original plans of the Bush administration involved invading 7 Middle Eastern countries.

  • Zionist psychopath…aka…sociopath… Killing is good, say THE CHOSEN ONES… Less mouths to feed. Bolton takes his orders from Bi Bi kiss your ass goodbye… The Kabbalistic magic of the Zohar is now controlling Christian Zionists like Bolton, Trump, even the Mueller Investigation… The Neo-“CONS”… under control of Is-Real-Hell??? The False Messiah of the abomination of false revelation… standing where it should not be! The Royals of England have been invaded by the Rabbis of secular central banking and fiat capital, fiat usury, and the golden calf, called the bull of wall street!… People are so conditioned by fake TV, Radio, Internet etc… The Zionist Socialistic deception and narratives of racist demonology have infected the spirit of the human mind… Zombies that think lies are truth and the truth is a lie… Racism divides and human spirit of good, into the likeness of a demonic mind set, This allows us to behave in a manner of object sociopathy and dwell in our self made hell on the greatest cosmic creation in the universe. All the while, we think we are patriotic, to the contrary, we are robots and automations of the great OZ of Is-Real-Hell…The psychopathy is real, and thou shall not kill is an oxymoron for the Rabbis, as long as it is kosher in the minds of that demented belief… it only applies to rabbi following sycophants… The latter priest of doom, are part of a false spiritual ideology controlled by Zionist thinking and behavior’s that never end…Let’s keep doing the same thing and expect different results. This is the result of who controls America the slave states… The Belfour agreement, the royal proxy of the Zionist that controlled WWII and started it all I WWI… They now control all insanity, as Albert Pike has illuminated… Wars are a necessary evil to control the thinking of the masses. This is his belief and mental indoctrination… The former only applies to rabbi following sycophants…priest of doom and false spiritual ideology… Albert Pike 33rd level Mason and Illuminati Jesuit Priest of Rabbinic Talmudic thought… A Zionist Rabbi… His real credential’s are formed from rabbi magic and Kabbalistic dogma. Fanatical Judaism rules the minds of the demented Christians of Zionist order… Whether you’re a believer or not, they rule because they control the thoughts if the blind and ignorant sheep of Churchianitity.

    • So true.
      This mass brainwashing has been going on for long it is difficult for people to see the truth. They cling to their bibles and Qurans not realizing this just furthers the Judaic madness onto others.
      The Abrahamic mythologies are based on persons of the most vile nature.

      Abraham pimps his wife out and attempts to murder his only son at the time. After he has other children he banishes his first wife and son to the desert to ultimately die. Jacob lies and cheats his way to his fortune in particular is blind dying father and his brother. Why would anyone think these are god’s chosen? Even in Leviticus they speak of how they would sacrifice their very children to their supposed god.

  • “Pompeo: At CIA We ‘Lie, Cheat, Steal’ ”

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sIzxA_1555965398

    “Elliott Abrams Lied Again to the US Congress”

    https://orinocotribune.com/elliott-abrams-lied-again-to-the-us-congress

    Elliott Abrams accompanied Condoleeza Rice to Lebanon as primary adviser when they
    tried to “solve” the 2006 Israeli invasion of Lebanon.

    John Bolton, not incidentally, was US Ambassador to the UN in 2006, and laid the
    groundwork for the scheme of pivoting from a successful invasion of Lebanon into Iran
    and Syria. In May 2006, just weeks before Israel’s false-flag at the
    Israel/Lebanon border, Bolton championed UN resolution 1680 which made
    Iran responsible for Hezbollah’s actions.

    https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/io/rls/rm/66417.htm

    Thousands of words could be written about Resolution 1680 but Daniel Pipes
    summed it up in August of 2006 when he posted: “Resolution 1680 gives
    us the right to attack Iran, by the way”.

    In the article, “What Will It Take to Crush Hezbollah?”, tuned in and
    connected Ziad Abdelnour offers this:

    Some experts say that for Israel to defeat Hezbollah, they must develop a strategy to eliminate Hezbollah’s rocket and missile capabilities. And the way to do this would be with unmanned systems that will give Israel the opportunity to conduct the necessary ground campaign to neutralize Hezbollah, responding to its rocket attacks swiftly enough to degrade its arsenal. Combine these efforts with US technological and most importantly, political support, and maybe Israel will finally have what it takes to direct an attack that will eliminate Hezbollah.

    There is only one thing that makes a dream impossible to achieve: the fear of failure.

    What Will It Take to Crush Hezbollah?

    https://www.ziadabdelnour.org/what-will-it-take-to-crush-hezbollah/

    January 16, 2018

    by Ziad Abdelnour

    Ziad Abdelnour, a Christian, is an associate of Daniel Pipes and Elliott Abrams.
    He and Elliott Abrams head the U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon, Daniel Pipes is
    a member.

    I believe Resolution 1680 is still active and an available pretext for war.
    We have not seen the neocon monsters use tactical nukes yet. If that is what it takes, would they dare use them to take out Hezbollah’s missiles?

  • It’s all a tissue of lies Caitlin…
    .
    Top British Commander In Rare Public Dispute With US Over Iran Intelligence
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-15/top-british-commander-rare-public-dispute-us-over-iran-intelligence
    .
    “No – there’s been no increased threat from Iranian-backed forces in Iraq and Syria,” British Army Maj. Gen. Christopher Ghika, a deputy head of the US-led coalition, asserted confidently in a videolink briefing from Baghdad to the Pentagon in response to a CNN question. “We’re aware of that presence, clearly. And we monitor them along with a whole range of others because that’s the environment we’re in. We are monitoring the Shia militia groups. I think you’re referring to carefully and if the threat level seems to go up then we’ll raise our force protection measures accordingly.”
    .
    Of course the U.S. government took exception to his comment:
    .
    “Recent comments from OIR’s deputy commander run counter to the identified credible threats available to intelligence from US and allies regarding Iranian-backed forces in the region,” a CENTCOM statement replied.
    .
    Government secrecy renders democracy moot. Not that we’re actually a democratic republic anymore, that myth is a facade which needs tearing down. However, considering comments here and elsewhere by the alleged “woke”, I wouldn’t get my hopes up…

  • If enough people pray for a certain outcome, would it cause Powers beyond our realm to act to fulfill our fervent wishes? It might be worth a try……

    • Every year of my long life and, as far as I know, for hundreds years before that, millions (possibly billions) of people around the world pray for, ‘peace on earth and goodwill toward men’. What was that definition of insanity? Something about doing the same thing and expecting a different result? It seems obvious to me that it has to be the power of the masses of people here on earth.

  • “I think as Justice Jackson said in a famous decision, the Constitution is not a suicide pact,” Bolton said. “And I think defending the United States from foreign threats does require actions that in a normal business environment in the United States we would find unprofessional. I don’t make any apology for it.”

    By his own words “defending the United States from foreign threats”

    Psycho Johnnie was given a hammer again, knowing he sees everyone and everything as a nail.
    Someone needs to grab his hammer and tap him in the head.

    DJT needs to get in ‘You’re fired!’ mode, again.

    • You’re asking why doesn’t somebody just shoot him, like they tried to shoot Hitler as a morally humanitarian act to save millions of souls?

    • What if someone had gone crazy and secretly obtained the nuclear code and you knew they were going to push the button and start a pre-emptive war to “protect” Americans by killing billions of innocent people including our own citizens. Would it be a crime to kill them? Would it be a crime not to? Please don’t make me answer that question. Try Dr. Strangelove.

    • Justice Jackson presided at the Nuremberg Trials of Nazi war criminals at the end of WWII. I don’t think he would have gone so far as to say that the Constitution justified genocide. There are limits, and Bolton doesn’t seem to recognize that.

  • I have to wonder – would it be a sin to pray for the death of someone like John Bolton? But if it turned out to be actually a spiritual duty to do that, how long would my prayer list become of those meriting a similar fate?

  • Caitlin! You mean to tell us our leaders are abject liars, frauds, and the worst sort of criminals??

  • More great work on the evil sick psychopathy and sociopathy that has devastated my country and wreaked havoc, destruction and murder in the world for so long.

    Revelation 22:15

  • Escobar is reporting that a recent secret trilateral among R, C and I was held and R and C made guarantees of I’s protection. That doesn’t mean the lunatics won’t use the usual false-flag tactics to justify an attack, or that Mossad won’t provide a false-flag with or without the lunatics’ approval, but I suspect the Malignant Manatee leaving Sochi with his manatee tail tucked firmly between his legs suggests he didn’t manage to accomplish what Bibi and Jared of Arabia sent him there to accomplish.

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